Mick You all may have heard the news that the Usurper is now saying his mother was "single". I knew that eventually he would either deny his father or his father's marriage. A single US citizen mother DOES produce a natural born Citizen child (except if birth occurred in Kenya--- since she would have been too young to confer citizenship by the law at the time), since there would be no legal claim to citizenship of the child by the father's home country.
If it turns out that the decision is that she was not married, or that the marriage was one of convenience (to get Visa extensions), while Obama Sr. already had another wife in Kenya, that would be a satisfactory conclusion--- since the definition of natural born would remain intact, and no precedence set for allowing foreign alllegiance and influence into the Whitehouse.
This is an important developement, since it also requires Discovery of official documents. There is a Divorce decree of Barack Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann D. Obama, and Obama's fraudulent "birth certificate" (long form) has the signature (supposedly) of "Stanley Ann Dunham Obama". Why would she call herself by the last name of Obama, and give little Barry his father's last name if they were not married? He is setting up an escape hatch, and that escape hatch was also floated at my Tallahassee hearing, when the judge asked my attorney what the condition of the child would be to single mother. Obama ALWAYS foreshadows his political theatre.
Could the missing page 11 be Obama's birth certificate?
No Maui marriage certificate has been found yet.
There is also the issue of the INS interviews and internal paperwork on Obama Sr. They seem to conceed that Obama Jr. was born in Hawaii (only hearsay though), and also talk about that Obama Sr. was said to have a wife or wives in Kenya. Can this be used to retroactively annul a 50 year old marriage, when all the parties are dead? Or maybe that can be done as political cover so that the judiciary can determine that Obama IS a natural born Citizen by technicality? He is setting something up, most likely because this issue is about to explode on the scene. Very interesting developments, but they are developments that raise the chance of Discovery being granted in my case.
It's all a pack of lies. I have come to the conclusion that we will never get a resolution on this one. For four years plus I have been waiting for the "big reveal" only to get forged documents and changing narratives. The best bet on the facts of this coming out are if Romney wins, O loses power, and Congress grows a pair and looks at Arpaios investigation. The odds of that are slim to none. No court is the US will ever touch this one. Discovery will never come.
I have perfect standing, and they cannot shoo me away easily w/o being afoul of what little law there is left. I will make them lie, or make the decision all the way to the top.
Don't get me wrong. I admire greatly what you are doing. But reading about this "exploding on the scene" ... or this issue ends with discovery...or information will soon come out that will blow this wide open... Trump promising a big announcement at the convention then golfing with Clinton and not even going to the convention , Arpaio's investigation holding back which computer the fake BC was transmitted from etc.... If the media won't report whatever may or may not come out, why bother.
I love what you are doing Mick and God Bless you as you continue on this path. But for me and mine we know the rule of law is dead. Prepare accordingly. Also I want to say Thank you and farewell to everyone who came and spent time these last few years at Nate's. I enjoyed my time here and learned so much from all your friendly wisdom. Good luck and Godspeed.
I would also like to thank everyone for their friendly wisdom and a especially Nate for the effort he put in over the years. I will be dropping in at Fredw's site and the Nate's garage site, so see everyone there I hope.
Fred, I wonder, How would Romney do in a singing contest with Obama? Considering what we've seen of Romney's debate skills so far, I suspect we'd see similar results in both contests. - MM
Romney doesn't really have much of a voice...... will watch the debate just to see whether he has the acumen to make points that are teed up to be crushed.....
Milton Friedman was the speaker at my graduation back in 1980. Smart guy and a great talk. Now Ben Ber-yank-me is claiming he (Milton) would support his (Ben's) policies. BS and double BS!! Ben is lower than a snakes belly and by all indications is a pathological lair who only knows how to print and has a worse predictive track record than the TV weathermen of 50 years ago. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-01/guest-post-ben-bernanke-just-told-massive-lie-about-milton-friedman
http://www.contraryinvestor.com/mo.htm some interesting charts here, and I've been busy with the kids, work and expanding my social life :) I have eased up some on the rabid news following the past month or so.
Romney was really very well prepared, not a hair out of place. He must have stood in front of a mirror for hours and hours getting just the right tilt of the head and just enough, but not too much, actual smile. A great performance all around. On the other hand Obama looked like he was just phoning it in; like he didn't have the time for this circus. Well I think next time he should just start with a song.
If I were Obama, I'd hope to lose this election. In fact, I'd be pleading with my puppeteers to let me lose.
Why? The reasons are obvious - he'll lock in $40 million in the next 4 years in pay backs from Big Finance Capital front corporations for handing trillions from the Treasury over to their interests.
That kind of money might not be available if the collapse accelerates in earnest within the next 4 years (which is more likely than not, IMHO).
Not to mention he will be absolutely hated to the point going anywhere could be risky if the collapse acceleration occurs in the next 4 years.
The performance at the Debate was telling - Obama didn't respond , was passive , one might objectively say he mailed it in. Could be he would like to move on ( already has a mansion at his beck and call come January and Michelle also allegedly would love to move on... ) However , the PTBs might not be inclined to let him move on ( note the NFP report on Friday.... ) Not surprising the numbers were fudged and my initial perspective of a ho hum report seems to have been borne out by considering the news and views on same - note the post below which has various articles on same.
Good afternoon Kev ! Hope all is well with you.....I think layoffs probably have picked up due to the present uncertain pre-election environment.... folks are sitting on their hands , waiting to see what will happen before making business decisions....A couple of links below to check out !
Hi Fredw, I'm doing well and hope you are too, you may be right about waiting on the election but I think its also possible that even with all the stimulus that the consumer is retrenching a bit more due to the nearly $4 gas and other higher costs of basic living.
I loved seeing the Germans boo Merkel and sadly not surprising about the BP spill.
Good evening Kev - one thing we do know , that sinkhole keeps getting larger almost daily. And if you look at the most recent photos and commentary , there are concerns about additional sinkholes developing....... And there is alot of methane coming to the surface , which is quite dangerous.
"Breaking news of a mass shooting at the Azana Salon and Spa at the Brookfield Square Mall. Details still scarce but at least 4 people reported wounded and 3 more patients expected, emergency responders are on the ground, and the mall has been put on lockdown."
Everybody watching the storm? Fredw you may be in for some weather correct? I like following the forum on accuweather here's the thread for Sandy. The weather geeks are adding comments like crazy http://forums.accuweather.com/index.php?showtopic=30097&st=6500
Morning Kev - we are expecting monday / Tuesday to be interesting ! Here are some items to ponder including my " Sandy " thread - as we move further into the weekend , will expand the Sandy thread as news / interesting items are published.....
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/latest-news-on-louisiana-sinkhole.html updated through Saturday morning at the time of this post
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-watch.html updated through Saturday morning at the time of this post
President Barack Obama said repeatedly Friday that his administration would "find out what happened" and punish those responsible, but he twice ducked questions about whether U.S. officials denied requests for help.
"We're going to gather all the facts, find out exactly what happened, and make sure that it doesn't happen again, but we're also going to make sure we bring to justice those who carried out these attacks," Obama said in an interview with Denver television station KUSA.
( CIA says it didn't give stand down orders , Obama say he doesn't know what happened thus how could he have given the Stand down Order - did Hillary or Panetta give Stand down Orders ? If not , who did ?)
WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — Defense Secretary Leon Panetta calls the criticism of the Obama administration’s handling of the Libya terror attack “Monday morning quarterbacking.”
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Panetta said that they didn’t have enough “real-time information” to send military forces to respond.
“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta said, according to The Associated Press. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
Gen. Carter Ham is the head of U.S. Africa Command and Gen. Martin Dempsey is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
( When does Panetta , Ham and Dempsey fall on their swords ? )
( Commander of USS Stennis Strike Group sent back to home base - very , very odd Generals Ham and Gaouette relieved of Command at almost the same time.... Did they rebuke direct orders from Panetta or Obama 's orders regarding Benghazi or is this a result of something else ? ) Key text below......
In an unusual move, the Navy has replaced an admiral commanding an aircraft carrier strike group while it is deployed to the Middle East. The replacement was prompted by an Inspector General’s investigation of allegations of inappropriate leadership judgment.
Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette, the commander of the USS John C. Stennis strike group, is being returned to the United States for temporary reassignment. In a statement the Navy said it had approved a request made by Vice Adm. John W. Miller, the Commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, to temporarily reassign Gaouette “pending the results of an investigation by the Navy Inspector General.”
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A Navy official familiar with the circumstances of the investigation said it involved allegations of “inappropriate leadership judgment” and stressed it was not related to personal conduct.
I wonder if these guys were opposed to attacking Iran, I remember reading that some of the upper level military was opposed to any attack on Iran and there was speculation that they were hampering the crazy neocon attempts to get one started.
Karl Denninger's site had some info indicating that they were relieved because they were trying to save the ambassador and the others. It seems to me they (the totus) wanted the guy dead. I watched a short documentary about the attack and some very credible sources were saying there was no way that the white house and others were not seeing the whole thing unfold in real time. It was 7 hours from the time the attack started until the ambassador was killed. We could have had boots on the ground in 2hrs and air support even faster. There is nothing to low for this guy to do.
My take on the items I have read was that General Ham attempted to respond to the Benghazi attack of the Consulate and the multiple requests for assistance , General Ham was told to stand down ( and said the hell with that ) and as he was getting the response ramped up , was suddenly relieved of his Command by General Rodriquez ( his Second in Command.. ) That is simply incredible and will make for interesting future Congressional Hearings I'm sure.
Regarding General Gaouette ( Commander of the Stennis Strike Force ) and what was the basis of the alleged " lack of leadership judgment " , I have not seen anything shedding further light - other than it wasn't personal conduct. As the Stennis Strike Force was due to be deployed in the Gulf , a reasonable surmise may be that it was related to that mission. In time , I'm sure we will learn more......
Hi Fredw, thanks for the links and stay safe. Our weather could be interesting, looks like we are potentially in for some rain, winds and slight chance of some snow. It was 80 and sunny Thursday looks like 32 Tuesday morning. Strange, I'll need to get some plants covered up.
Thanks Kev - very much seems like the proverbial calm before the storm.....as always , I update my links as additional info becomes available..... if it starts raining like heck , hopefully the power stays on and riding the storm out is not too bad to manage.....
Today's thread for Hurricane Sandy ( link to the prior thread included ) , lots of important items of the day - NYC transportation items , Evac zone 1 notice , DC Fed offices closed Monday , air travel cancellations -- as well as the current information on Hurricane Sandy.....
Morning Kev ! Made it through the storm without any problems ( apart from the lights winking last night and having the TV get knocked off momentarily about a dozen times during the evening ) My office is closed for the second day in a row so I'm catching up on the news while sipping my coffee ! Sandy did not disappoint - quite the storm , deceptively strong as even though reported wind speed at landing was about 90 mph , central pressure was about 939 mb - which equates to a Cat 3 or 4 storm...... the breadth of damage and intensity for areas in Sandy's path underline this was not a so called Cat 1 storm. I will get out on the road in a few hours to see how bads things are - no trees down for me , but lots of branches down. One neighbor did lose a tree but fortunately his house wasn't hit !
Glad to hear you made it through fine - you off or working today ?
The Federal Emergency Management Agency is preparing for Hurricane Sandy to disrupt next week's elections, agency Administrator Craig Fugate said Monday afternoon.
"We are anticipating that, based on the storm, there could be impacts that would linger into next week and have impacts on the federal election," Fugate said on a conference call with reporters.
But any potential tinkering with Election Day would bring a bevy of legal issues.
"Our chief counsel's been working on making sure that we have the proper guidance," he added. "We're going through the regulatory policy and making sure all that's in place and we can support it."
Oh I appreciate what you are doing and if I was blogging like you are I would be visiting his site. Ten years ago I made his site a regular visit but just lost interest/respect for him. Not a comment on your post, just a verbalization of my disappointment with him.
I always liked the way DRUDGE presented the headlines, densely packed and quite readable. I still keep it as one of my home pages but now I only use it to tell me what the right wing talking points are going to be today. It definitely as "fair and balanced" as FOX news and there's usually a good laugh there somewhere. -MM
My thought on Drudge is that you have to take what he offers ( not his links per se to msm or blogs , but his "product " ) , with grains of thought. He does play some games , amuses himself ..... Regardless , it is a resource and his collection of links covers a wide stretch.....
I found it interesting after dropping hints this would rock the Campaign and hinting the President wa in the mix , it turned out to be something unrelated to the President......
The games like that are probably why I lost respect/interest in his site plus I'm much more libertarian than right or left wing, though I no longer waste my time actually participating in the charade that's called elections. I will admit he is probably still a good resource.
Kev
So Fredw, do you think they are understating the hurricane damage or overstating it? I have a hard time believing that they are accurately portraying the damage/future effects, currently the impression they are giving seems to be that some coastal areas/ Staten Island were hit hard but that things will be much better in a week or so. Not knowing just guessing, I'm thinking some of the important things like utilities/transportation is going to be a lot longer than that getting back to normal
Good afternoon Kev - while there is a degree of sensationalism present and the media has grabbed the story and run with it with great gusto, my thought is the damage and aftermath observed in New Jersey and New York is very real.....NJ is divided by Interstate 195 ( think Trenton )....above Trenton is where you see the gas shortages ( 75 percent of stations out of gas or power ) while below Trenton 90 percent of gas stations are functioning ( exclude the NJ shore naturally )
Regarding NY - a good portion of the outer boroughs - seem like third world nation territories.... no power , food , gas - like a war zone. That should start to change as fuel becomes available and power restored - but it has been quite bad. I have a Cousin in the Bronx who my Brother and I have tried to reach without success. So , I don't think the aftermath is being overstated for NY .
For other areas - to be frank , aftermath in other states has not been reported in the level of detail ( of NJ and NY ) so it's hard to say where things stand in those locales.....
Thanks for the update, hope your cousin is alright and gets in contact with you soon. Actually does sound quite a bit worse than the impression I'm getting from watching the weather channel, they are showing some severe damage but also a lot of not so damaged places and showing the casinos opening back up. So I was thinking only a few places suffered much severe damage. I'm not sure the MSM is really covering the aftermath much, I don't watch a lot of MSM so not sure maybe I'm just missing it.
Did ya catch this one Kev ? http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/trillions-of-dollars-worth-of.html That's some crazy stuff there.. NW Guest ps, Another great find fredw :)
Kev , to get the Mad Max sense on NY ( BTW , I believe Gov Chris Christie in NJ has handled things much better than Mayor Bloomberg or Gov Cuomo to date ) , check the following :
Hey NW Guest - great to see you here and glad you found the post about the missing / destroyed stock / bond / derivatives certificates interesting ! I thought they way 10 - 15 trillion in destroyed financial records was so casually dismissed as important was a gas - if those records weren't fricking important , why were they kept by DTCC in the first ?
Double like NW Guest/ Fredw. Here's a youtube video from Dawson about Cape Hatteras and Sandy, sounds like it was pretty bad there and not been covered. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2UQ_z50GkA
And here's another Fred I read, http://www.fredoneverything.net/A_Surrender.shtml not sure I agree with the surrender part but still a good read.
kev , the links aren't operative ( btw , fredoneverything isn't me ) .... some items below at the link regarding the election / horse race......I am pretty sure we will not have a winner Wednesday morning...... As far as being in the ocean at Cape Hatteras in a boat with sails in a hurricane , the word "fool " comes to mind , regarding that Ship Captain !
Like - none of the links (including yours) here work like normal for me but if you highlight them and right click on them it will give you the option to open in a new window.
And agree I wonder why the hell the Bounty was out there. The video is about the damage to the island though. Kev
I can't understand why people a so upset about the Sandy response. Long lines at gas stations, no power for weeks after the storm, shortage of food and water at local stores, roads blocked and people unable to return to their homes. Has anyone been paying attention to what's happened in Fl, Al, La, Ms. ? We have been there and done that, several times. In my area, we had 2 Cat 3's within 9 months.
I'll warn everyone, the next issue is the insurance companies. We have several families that have not yet settled for a hurricane in 2004. Let the law suits begin.....
New Nat Graph 'Doomsday Preppers' Season starts next week: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/?gclid=CNea0KeytrMCFYN_QgodNjgA7A What's that ol' Boy Scout motto ?? --Always be prepared--.
Thought I would highlight some positive things that occurred during the storm and aftermath - the human spirit has not been completely lost , despite the glum headlines we all have read !
Note the article where it's noted Val Jarett is leading talks with the Iranians - just what the heck is a white house political adviser doing State Department type work ????
Kev , I think it's unlikely that Val Jarret will pull the wool over Iranian eyes.......it just remains to be seen if a political deal is cut , what the terms are - and will Israel abide by whatever deal is cut ?
Hi Fredw, Like, the Iranians have been been playing what they've been dealt pretty well so far, so I'm hoping you are correct. What is really funny is the number of people who are going to be pissed about this election, like the bankers republican avatar is better than the bankers democrat avatar. Sorry in advance if I offend anyone here with that statement, but imho, the only change that comes with presidential elections is change for the worse, and I think I could make the case that has happened with every president since JFK. Okay there could be some debate about whether carter was worse than nixon, but I still think he was.
Morning Kev ( WE finally did reach my cousin - he is fine and thanks for asking ) ...... Today we have the status quo continuing - Obama / Dems running Senate and GOP running the House.......Fiscal Cliff still looms , the Middle East still a mess , Europe still a mess..... the Election Circus is over , now we are going to be returned to our regularly scheduled disaster state......
Greece unemployment number hits 25.4 percent , youth unemployment hits 58 percent - but note while 1.3 million are classified as unemployed , another 3.37 million aren't counted as they are classified as economically unavailable ! If the workforce is about 5.2 million is Greece ( but another 3.37 million have been excluded ) , isn't the true unemployed number about 50 percent if you add that 3.37 million back into the total workforce number ?
When I posted this originally , who would have thought the buried news would have included a months long investigation into the CIA Director ( why didn't the FBI Director tell the President about their investigation , does anyone believe Hilary , Val Jarret , Pete Rouse ( White House Chief of Staff ) , Tom Donilon ( National Security Council chief ) , Sec of Defense Panetta , had no clue about this ? In fact , if the Newsmax piece is accurate , he should have been forced to resign well before the Benghazi debacle on Sept 11th......
link "Petraeus was scheduled to testify before the House and Senate Intelligence committees on Thursday regarding the events surrounding September 11, as Congress gears up for a week of hearings related to the attack. Mark Knoller at CBS News tweets that he will no longer be testifying in light of his resignation, but acting CIA director Mike Morell will testify in his place" Kev (testing embedding link)
Hmm , was General Petraeus having more than one affair ? ? FBI probe started due to email threats from Paula Broadwell to another woman ..... shady affair getting even murkier......
Resigning from the CIA won't stop him from testifying if Congress issues a subpoena. He can refuse to testify, but would be held in contempt of Congress. As a retired military officer, I doubt he would risk his retirement.
I think he will be dragged into a hearing at some point , just like they will have to drag Hillary in.....the testimony will be behind closed doors and we will never know what was really said......
Leaking classified material appears to be okay if : !) you are the CIA Director and the info goes to your lover ; 2) if there is an Election to be won and there is a need to puff up a bull shit Seal Team 6 killed Osama Bin Laden movie by favored Hollywood Directors.
For any would be whistleblowers - heed the warning.... the Administration apparently might put you on a kill list if the dirt is really bad and our Courts will clear the military if any such murders occur....
It seems obvious to me that both the dems and the reps had knowledge of the Petraeus investigation long before the election. Noone seems to be outrages at the coverup. For reasons unknown BOTH parties decided to keep it under wraps until after the election. The Dems reason seems clear enough bur I'm not sure about the Reps. Could it be that the revalation of a stained Petraeus would have screwed up the "Blame Obama for Benghazi" narative? Cynics all around. -MM
Possible harmonic tremors ( precursor to a volcanic explosion - in this case perhaps methane explosion ) ..... one thing that has concerned me , apart from the seismic activity , is the reports of the cave floor rising very significantly since September without any explanation from officials why this is occurring or what is causing same ......
Hey fredw,, NW Guest 'ere, I also read 'The Oil Drum' everyday and one of the regular commenters-Rockman- said on Oct 24 that he was ready to start drilling a well 5 miles from the stinky sinkhole the next day. http://www.theoildrum.com/node/9579/925312 erk..
And while I'm at it,reguarding: http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/is-petition-from-louisiana-harbinger-of.html WTF good does it do to petition an admin who's legitimacy is junk? What a messy mess..
Haven't read what Rockman plans to do - what does he seek to achieve ?
Regarding the petition - consider it a sign of growing dissension - which will pick up..... however , once a petition gets 25,000 signatures , I believe the WH has to respond ! which should be interesting to read !
B) Sad to say , neither party will take that issue on , it was only half - heartedly raised during the past election cycle and by Donald Trump of all people. Supreme Court won't touch the issue - the issue for now ( while real ) , is dead. Heck , I doubt we see anything come from the Solyndra related frauds / Fast and Furious scandals or Benghazi scandals...... the country is pretty comatose right now. The election just proved that........
No, haven't heard anything mentioned as out of the ordinary on the well being drilled by Rockman. All of his comments are here : http://www.theoildrum.com/user/ROCKMAN/comments I know the link probably doesn't work , but if you type it into search, you can get them. And if you ever had any questions about the area, you could jump on the Drumbeat forum and he'd give ya a professional geologist's opinion ;)
And B : Yes it is sad , all the distractions have let the eligibility issue go away unsolved, but that still doesn't make everything kosher. How can you submit a petition to an admin which may not be eligible under the rule of law and does not follow the rule of law ? We're definitly in very dangerous, uncharted waters and headed for the rocks. Best hopes for these United States staying intact, to our Freedom, and restoring the rule of law. NW
Thanks NW ! during the Deep horizon saga ( back when the story was covered by msms and was hot and heavy at the Oil Drum , I recall reading many excellent comments from RM. He struck me as someone who knew what he was talking about , definitely someone working in the Industry....
and B) 15 States have citizens starting petitions...... if those petitions attracted a hundred thousand folks signing on , it might become an issue the msm would have to acknowledge......
Thank you fredw.. In Feb, I will have been reading 'The Oil Drum' everyday for five years. Right after oil went to $100 for the first time.. Saw you follow-up article on the 15 states earlier after it posted. un,,real. Ann Barbhardt was talking about that same subject yesterday on her 8 part vid series. Also states splitting in Europe, It was a very good lecture on the status of the economy and why it's about to implode. They have already seized her bank funds,,she expects them to sieze her property any day and haul her off in the black SUVs. It's been a year since she closed her brokerage after MF Global stole their clients $$. Time has flown , eh ? cheers, NW
NW .... Ann is sharp , when she focuses on topics of her specific expertise ( such as commodity trading ) she truly is excellent. I respect her spunk , she has taken a position and will stand her ground and do what she believes is right.... you have to respect that !
We are living in the Reality Tyranny Show, people. Anything big is orchestrated. Even surprises have their narrative orchestrated. Most here probably know that Obama hasn’t spent $1 since 1/2010, but the Republican House has given the Treasury away to special interests. The Republicans then blame the Democrats and the Democrats play their role as big spenders – even though the Republicans are 100% responsible. The narrative, however false, is of prime importance in the Reality Tyranny Show.
Now, go ask some folks around you – what party is responsible for all the spending the last 2 years? I bet OVER 90% incorrectly blame the democrats. Why? Because the Reality Tyranny Media told them so.
In the Ultimate History Lesson, John Taylor Gatto nailed it… to paraphrase… [t]here was a 2nd American Revolution in the late 1800s. It wasn’t won through force of arms, but through force of insight into how public opinion was created.
I have seen the enemy… and it is us. We don’t know how to think critically. We don’t even know how one can know something. Almost everyone sees a report on the part of Reality Tyranny Media designed to perform the role of “good cop” for them and they think it is true.
The first three of the classical seven liberal arts, the trivium, instructs us how to differentiate between the known and the unknown.
Some required reading for every informed citizen:
Search:
“archive.org Tragedy and Hope” “archive.org Propaganda Edward Bernays” “archive.org Art of War Sun Tzu”
Also worth the time is viewing “The Ultimate History Lesson with John Taylor Gatto” which is free on YouTube.
Unfortunately, those engaged in reality are fairly few, but growing in number.
Has anyone seen “Dreams of My Real Father” on Netflix? I think a very strong case was made that Obama was not born in a Kenyan manger or anywhere else near Kenya at all. I also think they make a great case that Obama didn’t have a British father… that Barack Obama, Sr. was a hoax of a father.
I didn’t like the narrative that Obama is some kind of Communist that despises Big Finance Capital and their corporate fronts. Clearly, they OWN him and use him to go all reverse Robinhood on the suckers that support him (or Romney).
It also dawned on me that we’ve had 30+ years of CIA in the White House starting with Bush the elder. GWB was CIA via his father. Bill Clinton had ties to the CIA via the Mena, AK CIA drug running operations. Obama’s known mother and grandfather were both CIA.
Where did the CIA come from? Skull and Bones. Where did the Skull and Bones come from? The Bavarian Illuminati.
Yeah, they are running our Imperial Presidency, but don’t worry, they don’t exist.
While the chess pieces have magnetic personalities to manipulate and control the population (Zbigniew Brzezinski), the real enemy is the Grand Master chess player.
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false" -- William Casey,CIA Director(from first staff meeting)
Looks like the petitions have struck a nerve - up to 40 or so petitions from citizens of various states so far - Texas has more than 68,000 signatures so far...... so maybe this counter- petition is a response.
Do you think there is any chance that the petitions to secede are just a government op to identify problem citizens? Secession is a nice thought, but I don't see where even Texas has a chance in hell to get enough votes for it unless conditions get a whole lot worse. Not that I don't think things will get a whole lot worse eventually.
Morning Kev - I view the petitions as an expression of sentiment , although the counter petition was quite interesting to me ! The chances of a State leaving the US ( if I recall that was attempted before - and the Federal government fought the Civil War to preserve the Union ) is less than zero ! In that regard , note Gov Rick Perry is not on board with the notion ! Consider it a sign of the times......
Two random items : Superstorm Sandy formed as solar flare 1598 spewed out an M9.0 on 10/20, and an X1.8 on 10/23 along with 4 other M class. http://www.solarham.net/top10.txt and,,, San Juan County,(across the bay from Nate), vote to ban growing anything with GMOs: http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-san-juan-county-votes-to-ban-gmos-20121107,0,140339.story
Ok, three random items , this one is crackin me up.. Seattle voters finally approves funding for construction of the replacement of the 'seawall' that keeps the city from sliding into Puget Sound . The bay is 300' deep out in front of the city and it tapers down to over 600' at the entrance to Elliot Bay. Anyway, construction won't be allowed during Summer months because it will hurt tourism along the waterfront . Construction In the water won't be allowed from Feb to Aug because of endangered salmon laws. So that leaves 'em Oct through Jan to work.Winter.bwaahhahaaa.. The existing seawall is JUNK !! It will FAIL in a quake,,helllo ??? Also, the S end of the seawall must be replaced before they can start tunneling to replace the decrepid viaduct wich wll also fall in a quake. They will be tunneling 100' deep adjacent to the new seawall,below sea level. un,,real. Replacement timeframe of the wall now estimated at 7 years . One mile long, SEVEN years...(weather permitting,no large quakes interm). :) http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019676930_seawall14m.html
"But any inflationary cycle “advantage” comes with a significant downside. For one, never in the history of mankind has an inflationary cycle so spurred and rewarded financial speculation. Global risk markets have evolved into essentially one historic policy-induced speculative Bubble. Financial speculation was nurtured into one gigantic “crowded trade,” which manifested into the dysfunctional “risk on, risk off” trading dynamic. Increasingly aggressive policy responses over too many years created a speculation monster that will not be easily contained or tamed."
That one works, I've been copying the example from the instructions and replacing the necessary parts, missed deleting some of the example on the first try.
Another link, Urban Survival ,This is a different topic but Urban survival has been following Patrick Geryl's quake predictions and he seems to doing pretty well. The predictions are just for time frame and size, no locations so not as useful but the size of the quake he is predicting to show up in December is very interesting. 10. I've been following the posted predictions for a while, here's the next one "Next weekend we may get an 8+ in that 25-28 window." I'm thinking much greater than chance accuracy so far, so I'll be watching for this one
Good afternoon Kev ! While not really a fan of Pat Geryl specifically or quake predictably generally , I can agree we are seeing more activity lately. Three 6.0 mag or higher quakes in the past three days , which is unusual ! I will file a mental note to see what occurs during the window Pat has noted - if he's right , will give a tip of the proverbial hat.
I just looked at the US Debt Clock on my rounds of net surfing, haven't checked it in a couple of weeks. The $ amount in the 'currency and credit derivatives' box has DROPPED roughly $124 trillion and is dropping about the same amount that it has been increasing since last spring. What this means, I do not know, just an observation..
Interesting, I wonder what assumptions feed their "clocks", their about page says they use complex formulas and the best sources but that is pretty vague, maybe it is just a plotted trend from the latest number reported from their "best source", seems counter intuitive for that number to be declining though.
I would agree the GEAB authors have a certain euro-centric blindspot ..... they can't see or won't acknowledge that the same failings / flaws / black holes that they identify regarding the US , are present in the Eurozone and EU ( and the magnitude of the problems are considerably higher in the Eurozone , which has structural issues not present in the US . Said problems include the fact that in contrast to the US , no actual fiscal union in the Eurozone , no financial harmonization among the countries in the eurozone , no common tax rates which creates issues of competition , the blood sucking EU as a financial albatross which the EU has to support - note the ongoing refusal of the EU to trim its greedy demands to continue to expand its budgets while austerity is piled on the backs of not just PIIGS but also France , the UK and other EU countries who are starting to say no mas !
Kev , tell me the sequencing set forth in this post isn't a transparent attempt to once again pull the Troika's football away poor Charlie Brown Greece ?
I don't think a Regional conflict will go as expected, I'm guessing that this war we are pressing for will be won by the Iranians. Just a hunch that years of sanctions and seeing how we operate has given them a chance to prepare for the conflict.
Kev , the key is what is " winning " ? And as defined by whom , through whose eyes ? Despite the very one-sided destruction that has befallen Gaza ( Similar to Lebanon in 2006 in its war with Israel , a considerable consensus is Hamas is the " winner " here as Israel did not accomplish what they set out to accomplish and Hamas has / is perceived to have gained more than expected in the so called ceasefire. The destruction to Gaza itself , loos of civilian lives and who knows how many folks there were wounded - the perception is that Israel didn't get it done.
With that as context , a Regional war will be an asymmetrical war , the boundaries of which constitute unknown unknown at this time. If Iran is attacked , does Iran have sleeper cells in Europe and the US who could be activated for terrorists acts ? Does Iran have WMDs which we don't know about but could be deployed here ? Can Iran cause enough damage to other GCC countries that oil could be sufficiently cutoff from Europe as well as the West and Asis - thereby harming the global economy ? In a regional campaign involving Syria and Iran vs Nato and GCC nations , do wee see Russia and / or China get involved in the fighting - could they realistically stay out and maintain global credibility ?
Many questions - hope we don't have to find out what the answers are .
Yes I agree despite taking the harder licks in the fight Hamas did win previously, like standing up to the bully in the schoolyard and get beat up but landing a few punches in the fight and more importantly not giving in to their will. I would say that Hezbolla did even better and forced Israel to withdraw. I expect Iran will be able to close the straight of Hormuz and keep it closed, and possibly inflict more damage that she receives. No proof, just taking a small amount of data (iran/iraq war, kosovo,recent drone loss,sunburns), giving a lot of credit to the Iranians for thinking outside the box (I think their home grown military equipment has been designed to counter our high tech advantage), believing what the Iranians say about their defensive capabilities (their recent claims about the drone appear truthful, I actually expect they are understating capabilities/ Sun Tzu The Art of War)and maybe just wishing that the bullies get their face smashed in so the start acting polite and mind their own business.
I don't think Iran has sleeper cells, they have gone to extreme lengths to avoid war and the discovery of one of those would negate that effort. No wmd's here either, unless you count $20 gas.
I think Iran can cause a lot of damage to our puppet states in the vicinity, the Saudi's have got to be on their list and it probably wouldn't take much incite the proles in that place.
No Russia, China probably under the table help but nothing overt unless they decide it's time for all out WW3.
There is all of my arm chair opinion, have a great thanksgiving!
Hey Kev , check the video on the first link in my post below...... runs through what could happen in the event of the inevitable attack on Iran by Israel and the US .... Happy Turkey Day - will be heading out around four for my Turkey Din din... God Bless you and your family ......
Hi Fredw I Hope you had a great Thanksgiving and black Friday if you are in to that. I'm working, but I don't have any ideas on what to get my girls anyway.
I guess I'm am not completely alone in thinking that a war with Iran isn't a good idea, very odd that it shows up the same day as my post. Maybe Tyler is lurking :)
Sounds like at least 80% of the Austrians gold will be very difficult to retrieve, looks like Chavez was pretty smart if he actually got it all back.
The robot/darpa article creeps me out, I've got to admit that I consider the "skynet" scenario a possibility in the future.
Morning Kev ( off today , not into black friday nonsense ) ... Thanksgiving was great - rather than muck it up with a crowd scene on black friday , I will take my dad out to dinner later today ! Self aware killing machines are scary but I think that is coming - after all , at some point the PTBs fear regular cops and soldiers may draw the line at shooting civilians while a machine will just follow its program and " Kill Baby , Kill " Chavez was smart , Germany , Netherlands and Austria seem to be waking up to the dilemma that they fear the gold is gone but are terrified to have THAT CAT out of the bag. The problem for them is the kitty is running around , is out of the bag and doesn't want to slink off somewhere and not be noticed by their citizens.
Kev , check the europe update - does the EU and Troika run a masters class in lies / delay / hubris / purposely confusing back tracking missive proliferations ... or what ?
I think you are right about the Germans/dutch/austrians, they know it's not there but also know that the whole system comes crumbling down if that becomes common knowledge. I guess they will be allowing some time in hopes that it can be "found".
And yes, lies, delays and etc. not much else they can do is there? Print like crazy I guess but they have to know that will cause it's own problems and they still would end up spending more than they got in. The big question is what do they hope to gain from delaying? I read an article 10-12 years ago, in it the guy speculated that the Fed knew (had to know)it's policies were going to destroy the economy in the near future (about now I would think) and therefore the Fed must think that the long term didn't matter or even that there wasn't a long term future. I still think about the possibility that the guy was correct, would explain all the actions to keep the ponzi going a little longer no matter what the long term expense will be, the casual disregard of the radiation from fukishima and even the flirting with WW3. Something to keep in mind anyway.
I agree - I think anyone running a ponzi scheme realizes the game can't last forever , ergo , there is no long term issues to deal with , just short term. Get through today. Then get through tomorrow - repeat this approach day after day. If you consider the economic policies in Europe and the US through the prism of running a ponzi scheme , the approaches we have observed over the recent years start to make sense. Thinking you can solve a debt problem by borrowing more money makes no sense long term ( unless you're running a ponzi scheme and the only thing that matters is flow. )
The gold prisoner's dilemma for Austria , Germany , Netherlands et al is the knowledge their countrymen will go apeshitte whenever the news becomes undeniable that the gold has been stolen by NY and London , that there will be no replacement - not in gold , maybe fiat could be offered but who wants that ? the Politicians and Central Bankers know heads could literally roll for that - thus delay / lie / plead with the thieves to play nice / cover up the truth as long as possible from their countrymen. If enough time is bought , perhaps a country like Iran can be looted and said gold there "returned " to those at the front of the borrowed gold line. Or as austerity hits , maybe countries like Italy , Greece , spain and Portugal wil be obligated to "pledge " their gold to secure loans ( said gold will never be seen again. )
So , that might be why austria , Germany and the Dutch will fake it until the NY Fed and BOE somehow get there hands on enough gold to satisfy their claims - the reality is if the gold isn't there , other than War , what option do they have to enforce their claim ?
Back in '08 , oil supply met demand as China was importing oil in record amounts to fill new SPR and oil went to $147, crashing the economy. On Nate's blog late last summer I put up one chart which had : Available Global Net oil Exports (GNE) minus Chindia's Net Imports (CNI) which would be Available Cumulative Net Exports (CNE)to other than Chindia, versus Global Public Debt (GPD) Anyhoo, in Oct on The Oil Drum ,commenter Westexas quantified the chart by dividing GPD by CNE and the result is,,, Debt per Barrel (DPB) of CNE . That amount was $150 DPB in '05 and increased to $525 DPB in '11 . With that, WT said,,"MY premise is that the oil importing OECD countries are trying to keep their economies,especially the "wants"based portions of their economies,going in the face of declining post'05 supplies of GNE,via massive deficit spending--financed by real creditors and by accomodative CBs--as annual global crude oil prices increased from $25 in '02 to $111 in '11.
Comment and chart found here http://www.theoildrum.com/node/9593/926348
I really liked the new DPB approach to understanding the economy as a 'hole',pun intended ;) cheers, NW
Trend website reporting : '$10 billion to be invested in Turkey within TANAP Project' http://en.trend.az/capital/energy/2091665.html The TANAP pipeline will transit Azerbaijan NG and feed the Nabbucu West Pipeline from Turkey to Austria. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/28/us-caspian-nabucco-idUSBRE85R13220120628 http://www.nabucco-pipeline.com/portal/page/portal/en/press/Nabucco%20West%20Scenario Thusly transiting Caspian NG to EU avoiding Russia and,, eliminating the previouly planned NG pipline from Iran through Syria/Turkey to EU: http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90854/7449471.html
Whoops, forgot to write in NW to ID,,LOL Also, Debka reporting US boots on the ground in Sinai for Gaza ceasfire trade: http://www.debka.com/article/22557/Obama’s-pledge-of-US-troops-to-Sinai-next-week-won-Israel’s-nod-for-ceasefire While Egypt riots about their new Dictator's decree : http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/11/23/274134/egyptians-torch-morsi-partys-offices/ http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/11/23/274156/morsi-defends-constitutional-declaration/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Also ,, I just made Turkey soup, and it's so fricking good ;)
I'm glad the Egyptians are still fighting for a real government, I wish them luck, it seems no matter what you do or which side you turn to, there is always a banker puppet waiting in the wings to take control.
Regarding Egypt , notice Morsi wasted no time making himself Dictator ( after allegedly taking part / having a role ) in the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas regarding Gaza ) and neither the US or the West knocked this extreme power move by MB Morsi ( quid pro quo ? )
Home made soup is just the best stuff on earth - i prefer chicken soup but turkey is good , especially with homemade noodles !
Updated today to reflect Saturday Fin Min Teleconference call on Greece .....
Note Decision date of Monday slipping from 11/26 until perhaps December 3. Also note latest new condition from the IMF which could slow tranche disbursement until as far out as December 14 or until buyback is completed.... This ploy is very sneaky - one has to really wonder if Greece is going to get the shaft as I will explain. First consider this snippet from one article :
Greece is hoping to receive the whole 44 billion euros due to be released from the bailout program next month. As things stand, all of this money will go to cover immediate obligations. Some 24 billion euros will be used to complete the bank recapitalization program, 9 billion will be invested in the buyback scheme, 4.5 billion is needed to cover the primary deficit, 3.5 billion has been slated to reduce state arrears, 3.4 billion is needed to cover four-week T-bills that mature next month and 500 million euros will go toward covering a bond that matures on December 21.
Forget the 44 billion trance is exceeded by the 44.9 in demands upon Greece - le's just focus on the bank recapitalization piece of 24 billion - if there is a private buyback and Greek Banks have been both initial participants in the Greek private investor debt swap ( PSI ) from March 2012 ( which caused massive losses and forced in part this bank recap ) , won't they once again suffer losses if they are subjected once again to haircuts on their Greek debt ? Second , what will the impact be on the Greek Banks on the new Greek bonds they have buying to bail out Sovereign Greece ? If Greek Banks suffer further losses due to both current Greek bonds which suffer losses and / or their residual Greek debt holding from the PSI , is it likely the 24 bank recap is insufficient ? Regardless , can Greece find sufficient interest among private investors without forcing the second PSI to have CAC imposed ? In sum , as the Troika envisions cutting Greece's debt by 40 - 45 billion by way of a second PSI and in light of expected private investor rebellion , I think this just won't fly.
I wouldn't touch any Greek debt with a ten foot pole and I think they want to shaft anybody and everybody they can. They still might do it though I have to admit I think it would take some new trickery and deceit to con the private money to take part. There still seems to be a lot of money out there that's in a desperate search for a place to park, I would have never thought bonds with a negative (or just very low)interest rate would sell, especially in this period of extreme money creation. Desperate money looks like stupid money to me, so who knows, maybe there is some very stupid money out there.
Above, I noted that there were several solar flares prior to hurricane Sandy forming, one was an X1.8. So,I've been pondering about weather or not there may have been solar flares prior to hurricane Katrina. Well,, Katrina formed 8/23/05 in the Bahamas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina
And there was a double solar flare with earth facing CMEs 8/22/05: http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/watchtheskies/aug05_cme.html Bingo.. NW
Wait,, there's MORE ; "In less than one month(from 8/22-9/17/05 ) there were 30 M-class flares and 11 X- class solar flares, the largest an X 17.0 on 9/7. http://www.ann-geophys.net/27/1019/2009/angeo-27-1019-2009.pdf During that period , there were several large tropical disturbance: TS Josie , Katrina , TS Lee, Hurricanes Maria , Nate, Ophelia, Philippe,and lovely Rita (which at the time I followed around the globe twice monitering sats)LOL Do the storms match the flares ? Yes, they do.
Found one study on the subject: http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/15322/InTech-The_effects_of_space_weather_on_hurricane_activity.pdf
Kind of an inconvenient correlation to the 'carbon tax' crowd. LOL
Another point to ponder,there were no hurricane landfalls during solar minimum between the last solar cycle and this one. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/12/05/new-hurricane-record-2232-days-and-counting-since-major-hurricane-made-landfall-on-the-usa-last-record-was-year-1900/ http://www.spaceweather.com/glossary/spotlessdays.htm
Jamie won't be the Treasury Secretary - but based on the replacement we just saw for Mary shapiro at SEC , don't get your hopes up. We will see another Geithner type or a bankster type....... just not Jamie Dimon !
JC would be a qualified candidate.. And he need a new mission since MFG's heist went down so well. Like to see Ann Barnhardt's reaction to that one. She cracks me up ;)
As I thought ( and mentioned in my prior post here 11/24 ) the issue regarding the buyback as related to the recapitalization issues involving the Greek Banks would be a problem - note the Greek Banks and Greek pension funds are refusing to take part in the voluntary buyback as this will blow them up , coupled with the fact that at the time of the first PSI , they were told this was a one off deal , never going to happen again ! That lie didn't even last a year ! Lol
If the US and Israel are involved in efforts to cause Bushehr to explode ( considering the massive civilian loss of life and injuries - not just in Iran but Regionally ) , that would be reckless. Moreover , if Iran possesses any true ability to react against the US not just in the Gulf and Regionally but also reach us here in the States , we are inviting blowback ! Fwiw......
Hi Fredw, You know it's odd with our economy in critical condition from too much debt and spending that I haven't heard much about the military budget. I don't guess anybody wants to cut that.
And yes even though the story is from Debka, it wouldn't surprise me that we were trying to blow it up even if it would kill millions, innocents don't count when we kill them.
Good afternoon Kev - regarding the military budget , note the sparring isn't what amount of billions should be trimmed , it's on whether the US can unilaterally and indefinitely detain americans ( as if that really be an issue anyway ) !
Debka should always be viewed through their agenda - but the fact remains they do break middle east news first which we later find out confirmed by msm outlets. As there are various sources that bad things have been happening with Iran's nuclear program , I tend to believe there is a fire where we smell the smoke here. Also , note we are starting to hear " fears " regarding Assad's chemical weapons again . something is going to pop with Syria soon !
Regarding civilian deaths , Iraq , Afghanistan , Pakistan , Syria have shown there is no concern regarding collateral damage ..... no reason to think Iran will be different even if the scale could be levels of magnitude greater. And you Congress , the MSM , UN won't say a word !
You are too right. all points. Except I didn't vote,so they aren't my congress :) Yes we have been committing acts of war against Iran and Syria for some time now, so I'm also thinking that since the current "under the table" actions aren't working that we will be getting more overt in our hostility.
Kev , the Chemical Weapon ( sarin not anthrax this time ) chatter really went apeshiite today ( note UN pulling out so we know action is coming soon ! )
What's scary is not that this happened in Japan , but with the sorry state of infrastructure in the US , it's amazing a disaster a day doesn't occur here ! Of course , we did just have the tanker car spill in Paulsboro , New Jersey that spilled vinyl chloride late last week......
Hi Fredw, The chemical weapons propaganda is pretty thick, we must be planning a false flag to kick off the invasion. Sounds like we have about completed preparations for the war so the kickoff may be soon after Christmas, I don't think they would take a chance on hurting holiday sales, could be wrong though. Yes even the sorry state of our infrastructure would suggest that war is coming sooner than later, at some point the degradation of the civilian base is going to cause a degradation in the support of our massive military, so it's a use it or lose it scenario. BTW, both links were the same article. Joy to the world..... Kev
I think it's interesting to note how the Syria situation has become hype just as we see the Greek bond buyback floundering but set for a near term decision point ( buyback needs to be wrapped up by 12/12 if Greece is to get the next tranche when the latest EU Summit occurs next week ( 12/13 ) and the next Greek bond redemption is due ( 12/14 )
Yes if they need to draw attention away from something then it could start anytime. Maybe this is what they want to bury, click here sad about the tunnel but I would expect more failing infrastructure.
The Brits have done their best to bury the Jimmy Savile mess - not shocked to see how deep the rabbit hole could go......one can imagine quite a few Eurocrats caught up in that one. Similar in one way to what happened in Penn State - part of the speculation was that the former Defensive coordinator for Penn State was running a pedo ring involving rich Penn State alums - that was barely mentioned very early on and then just buried.......... Sandusky was the focal point and no further action was taken to see how deep that rabbit hole went.
Meanwhile back at the ranch , here are some items to ponder - Syria update , big DB story , " Greece " fire updates.....
If we go overt on Syria then I would think that Iran is going to have to get overtly involved too based on their treaty. China will have to decide whether they are going to stand up or roll over too, I believe Russia must have already caved for some sort of deal. And no I don't believe the sarin story.
I heard a little about the Penn St. speculation, I tend to believe it's probably true and the "royal" speculation I posted too. Great blackmail stuff to keep a conspiracy under wraps.
Shame on Deutsche bank :)and deja vu with the Greek story. Kev
Interesting brief note on the greek buyback from a greek paper.... discussing game of chicken between Greek banks and hedge funds , but I snipped the last piece to show what the banks have obtained as a condition of participation ! So , Greece gets participation at the level needed from the greek banks , greek banks get major concessions , hedge funds benefit by selling some at the buyback price and hoping for greater appreciation afterwards ...... but this doesn't benefit Greece actually at all ! In another 3- 6 months , Greece will have broken Troika requirements for this bailout as the austerity measures will mandate failure , the concessions given to appease banks , appease citizens from rioting / striking daily in lieu of work , the continued failure to pay taxes will get larger ( rich still won't pay as this is Greece after all )......and then Greece will be looking for another bailout without private investors to squeeze meaningfully - just the Official sector ( which is when Greece will have to really post assets like their gold , oil and gas reserves , state assets , etc... )
Bank chiefs had a final meeting with Stournaras on Thursday ahead of the decision-making board meetings to be held by all main lenders on Friday. The most likely scenario is that they will all take part, but not with all the bonds they hold.
However, it does look as though banks have had it their way this time, as in return for their participation in the buyback program, they appear to have secured a tax exemption for their losses from the PSI debt restructuring, amounting to taxes of 4.2 billion euros, and from the buyback, equal to 2 billion euros.
They have also reportedly secured the protection of the banks’ governing boards from civil liability.
Like that was a lot of items :) Most of them reinforcing of my very cynical nature, thank you. I've got to admit that I'm watching 12/21, I'm not expecting the end of the world but am keeping an open mind as to whether it's the end of an "age" and the start of some dramatic "changes". But then again, I've been following Halfpasthuman.com for a long time too. Follow up on Geryl, missed the 11/28 call for a 8+, but did get close with his 12/04-12/05 7+ call. Based on the list I have from early Nov, he still has a 7+ on 12/11, an 8+ 12/17-12/18 and a 10+ on 12/21. 7 and greater earthquakes are pretty rare so if he gets any one of those 3 remaining I'll continue to keep an open mind on him. If not, I will be ignoring him.
Iranians captured another drone, I wonder if they have figured out how to hack them. drone link or maybe we have so many flying over that we are bound to have a few breakdown over their territory.
I have a lunch meeting on 12 /21 which i haven't cancelled - but the CERN aspect is interesting....
As for the quake we just saw , when I saw the initial 7.3 , the first thought that popped in my mind was that a precursor quake ( which did happen before 3/11 in Japan ).... guess we shall see what happens over the next few days on that front....
Iran does seem to have figured out how to hack our drones , not the first time they grabbed one - won't be the last time I suppose. Question is - what can they do with those birds once they get them ?
Syria getting hotter - rebels now seem to have captured one Syria chemical depot ( Al Safira ) and now have access to scuds and chemical agents which could be launched - who attacks first , Rebels , Assad or Nato / GCC forces ?
We know chemical weapons will be used , whether Assad uses them or not , he will be blamed. NATO and GCC will attack once that happens - if it turns out after the fact , it was the rebels , no one from the rebel ranks will be tried for war crimes.... it will just be lost in the fog of war.....
When you fall a day or so ( one side or the other of a quake prediction ) , that's within a reasonable margin of error to me. a 7.1 quake is fairly strong.... I recall when the quake hit near Virginia but that quake registered in Philly ( I was on the thirteen floor and felt the floor do a rumbling move and heard the building groan - a sound you don't want to hear when you're 13 floors up. ) the Virginia quake was 5.8 , epicenter was 38 miles NW of Richmond and still could make Towers shake and groan in Philly..... so imagine what a 7 mag quake must feel like at the epicenter , let alone a 8 or 9 !
The 5.8 certainly got my attention down here in Roanoke and I was on the first floor. I think your right, I should give him credit, just don't want him to be right about the next 2 predicted Dec quakes.
I have no doubt that Assad won't be the one to use chemical weapons and am fully aware that both Libya and Syria are victims of "outside" forces which are utterly without morals and have a free pass to be so, in fact every war crime the so called rebel forces commit is blamed on Assad.
Kev and MM......I don't have sympathy for Gaddafi , Assad or Saddam. None for Mubarak . All four brutally repressed their people , tortured , murdered numbers we will never know. However , the process in which all four were removed should be a concern - it we could partake in their removal , don't be shocked that somewhere down the road , what's good for the goose , becomes good for the Gander.
Conditions here in the US will continue to get worse - look at the food stamp usage numbers ( in contrast to the bs numbers we get monthly from the BLS ) ..... what happens if at some point SNAP goes crackle and then pop ? No SNAP , no food for 47 million folks - think that will be received well or might we see hungry folks fight for their lives , protest against the US government ? That seems likely to me . There is no magic money tree and some point the infallible FED will be quite fallible. If financial support for US debt is pulled , interest rates rise and they don't have to rise that notably to put a hitch in the US giddy up......Fed funds rates at a historical norm would make the US debt service very difficult - consider the debt mountain created over the past few years ! Consider the amount of debt we admit to ( about 16 trillion ) , the fnm / fre liabilities ( another 5- 6 trillion we ignore but have allegedly guaranteed ) and another 87- 100 trillion in unfunded SS / Medicare and federal retirement benefits... how long can the US ponzi last , I mean really ?
When things fall apart , it might be ironic to see the UN ( led by China , Russia , India , South America and so called GCC friends , suddenly call on the US to " respect " the rights of protesters , for sanctions to be imposed because of human rights violations against the US and to see the same processes used against " Dictators " such as Assad / Saddam , Gaddafi et al , used against the US......
As Mark Twain once said " History doesn't repeat itself , but it does rhyme. " if such rhymes occur , Americans shouldn't be shocked..........
I don't know Fred. I think you grossly underestimate the power of power. The US has built up incredible power both economically and militarily. At no time in your lifetime will the UN ever dictate terms to the US. Forget all those movie plot versions, true power doesn't read screenplays, it just enforces it's will. And if you've ever played "Risk" you'll know that America's true power is in it's geography; and when the world finally does crash the new overlords will choose North America as the home of the new world order. Location, location, location, best real estate on the planet.
I take it this is MM - I can't say that you're wrong and I respect your opinion. Every Empire has its day and we have seen the sun set on many over the annals of history. And don't think that I want the set to set on the US - I live here , plan to live and don't want to see the country lose its sovereign rights and powers. However , we are traveling down a dangerous road and we are entering ( in my opinion ) a time period where we may become vulnerable. At the end of the day , we shall see what goes down , right ?
A lot of discussion points :) While I don't like dictatorships and would prefer republics like America used to have, I think all forms of government will brutally repress threats to their power. Just look at our history, civil war, whiskey rebellion, the WW1 vets protest, Kent state, Waco, and the over top violence against the Occupy movement (which wasn't very threatening even). I don't think any of those 4 dictators stole as much from their people as our fake corporate run democracy is though. Still my main points are that it's not our business and the people we liberate will be much worse off.
I agree with MM that the US has a lot of power but I do think it's very dependent on complex systems that are not very robust. The main problem is that the economy has been hollowed out but I also doubt whether we could even build a drone without parts from China, even if they aren't in the drone, somewhere in the supply chain is bound to depend on them. So we can currently project a shitload of power but I don't think that would last long in a real war or even after the economy goes to shit.
Alabama says no to Agenda 21: http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/11592-alabama-adopts-first-official-state-ban-on-un-agenda-21 NH Lawmaker seeks to ban Agenda 21: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/agenda-21-new-hampshire_n_2198466.html Florida lawmaker seeks ban on agenda 21: http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/don-gaetz-expect-anti-un-agenda-21-2013
Well well.. you don't wanna play by the new rules ??? Tisk tisk,, non compliance is not an option and now you're on top of the hit list. Just like Syria. ooops..
http://www.prisonplanet.com/u-n-conference-slyly-introduces-resolution-to-gain-control-of-internet%e2%80%94in-middle-of-night.html and everything else. Oh that's just crazy talk , they can't do that.. pfffffffff
Did Deepwater Horizon ever actually stop leaking , have regional quakes caused cracks / seeps to release oil , will BP ever be held accountable for their lies and incalculable damage to the Gulf coast ?
Mick
ReplyDeleteYou all may have heard the news that the Usurper is now saying his mother was "single". I knew that eventually he would either deny his father or his father's marriage. A single US citizen mother DOES produce a natural born Citizen child (except if birth occurred in Kenya--- since she would have been too young to confer citizenship by the law at the time), since there would be no legal claim to citizenship of the child by the father's home country.
If it turns out that the decision is that she was not married, or that the marriage was one of convenience (to get Visa extensions), while Obama Sr. already had another wife in Kenya, that would be a satisfactory conclusion--- since the definition of natural born would remain intact, and no precedence set for allowing foreign alllegiance and influence into the Whitehouse.
This is an important developement, since it also requires Discovery of official documents. There is a Divorce decree of Barack Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann D. Obama, and Obama's fraudulent "birth certificate" (long form) has the signature (supposedly) of "Stanley Ann Dunham Obama". Why would she call herself by the last name of Obama, and give little Barry his father's last name if they were not married? He is setting up an escape hatch, and that escape hatch was also floated at my Tallahassee hearing, when the judge asked my attorney what the condition of the child would be to single mother. Obama ALWAYS foreshadows his political theatre.
Divorce decree:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18130289/Obama-1964-Divorce-Papers-13-Pages-Missing-Pg-11
Could the missing page 11 be Obama's birth certificate?
No Maui marriage certificate has been found yet.
There is also the issue of the INS interviews and internal paperwork on Obama Sr. They seem to conceed that Obama Jr. was born in Hawaii (only hearsay though), and also talk about that Obama Sr. was said to have a wife or wives in Kenya. Can this be used to retroactively annul a 50 year old marriage, when all the parties are dead? Or maybe that can be done as political cover so that the judiciary can determine that Obama IS a natural born Citizen by technicality? He is setting something up, most likely because this issue is about to explode on the scene. Very interesting developments, but they are developments that raise the chance of Discovery being granted in my case.
It's all a pack of lies. I have come to the conclusion that we will never get a resolution on this one. For four years plus I have been waiting for the "big reveal" only to get forged documents and changing narratives. The best bet on the facts of this coming out are if Romney wins, O loses power, and Congress grows a pair and looks at Arpaios investigation. The odds of that are slim to none. No court is the US will ever touch this one. Discovery will never come.
DeleteI have perfect standing, and they cannot shoo me away easily w/o being afoul of what little law there is left. I will make them lie, or make the decision all the way to the top.
DeleteDon't get me wrong. I admire greatly what you are doing. But reading about this "exploding on the scene" ... or this issue ends with discovery...or information will soon come out that will blow this wide open... Trump promising a big announcement at the convention then golfing with Clinton and not even going to the convention , Arpaio's investigation holding back which computer the fake BC was transmitted from etc.... If the media won't report whatever may or may not come out, why bother.
DeleteI love what you are doing Mick and God Bless you as you continue on this path. But for me and mine we know the rule of law is dead. Prepare accordingly.
Also I want to say Thank you and farewell to everyone who came and spent time these last few years at Nate's. I enjoyed my time here and learned so much from all your friendly wisdom. Good luck and Godspeed.
I would also like to thank everyone for their friendly wisdom and a especially Nate for the effort he put in over the years. I will be dropping in at Fredw's site and the Nate's garage site, so see everyone there I hope.
DeleteI guess he's going to have to re-title his book "Dreams Of My Mother's Boyfriend" :-)
DeleteGood afternoon everyone ! Hope all is well .....regarding the post below , I consider the issue when more so than if......
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/09/can-mena-come-to-shores-of-america.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/09/things-to-watch-for-in-this-weeks.html
ReplyDeleteSo , how does Romney do in this week's debate - especially if you look at what has been served up on a platter for Romney to critique ?
Fred, I wonder,
ReplyDeleteHow would Romney do in a singing contest with Obama?
Considering what we've seen of Romney's debate skills so far, I suspect we'd see similar results in both contests.
- MM
Romney doesn't really have much of a voice...... will watch the debate just to see whether he has the acumen to make points that are teed up to be crushed.....
DeleteLike and hey everybody
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ReplyDeleteMilton Friedman was the speaker at my graduation back in 1980. Smart guy and a great talk. Now Ben Ber-yank-me is claiming he (Milton) would support his (Ben's) policies. BS and double BS!! Ben is lower than a snakes belly and by all indications is a pathological lair who only knows how to print and has a worse predictive track record than the TV weathermen of 50 years ago. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-01/guest-post-ben-bernanke-just-told-massive-lie-about-milton-friedman
Deletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/us-fiscal-train-wreck-chugging-along.html
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/war-games-following-bouncing-balls.html
a couple of items to mull over..... how is everyone today ?
I'm good and "like" for you links Fred. How are you?
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I'm fine - no complaints. how have you been ?
Deletehttp://www.contraryinvestor.com/mo.htm some interesting charts here, and I've been busy with the kids, work and expanding my social life :) I have eased up some on the rabid news following the past month or so.
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Hey , you have to keep your priorities in order ! BTW , check this out... dirt being dished on O and Rahm as well
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like! Kev
DeleteFred - your links aren't hot.
ReplyDeleteRomney was really very well prepared, not a hair out of place. He must have stood in front of a mirror for hours and hours getting just the right tilt of the head and just enough, but not too much, actual smile. A great performance all around. On the other hand Obama looked like he was just phoning it in; like he didn't have the time for this circus. Well I think next time he should just start with a song.
ReplyDelete- MM
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/analyzing-first-debate-winners-and.html
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts on the first debate - fwiw....
If I were Obama, I'd hope to lose this election. In fact, I'd be pleading with my puppeteers to let me lose.
ReplyDeleteWhy? The reasons are obvious - he'll lock in $40 million in the next 4 years in pay backs from Big Finance Capital front corporations for handing trillions from the Treasury over to their interests.
That kind of money might not be available if the collapse accelerates in earnest within the next 4 years (which is more likely than not, IMHO).
Not to mention he will be absolutely hated to the point going anywhere could be risky if the collapse acceleration occurs in the next 4 years.
I can't disagree with that logic "like" Kev
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DeleteThe performance at the Debate was telling - Obama didn't respond , was passive , one might objectively say he mailed it in. Could be he would like to move on ( already has a mansion at his beck and call come January and Michelle also allegedly would love to move on... ) However , the PTBs might not be inclined to let him move on ( note the NFP report on Friday.... ) Not surprising the numbers were fudged and my initial perspective of a ho hum report seems to have been borne out by considering the news and views on same - note the post below which has various articles on same.
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/non-farm-payroll-report-released-ho-hum.html
Some posts for the Weekend.....
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/triffins-dilemma-not-household-word-yet.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/spain-items-of-note-lead-articles-from.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/while-clown-show-known-as-us.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/has-team-obama-re-election-operation.html
ReplyDeleteSomething to ponder - hope everyone had a great weekend !
Hi all,
ReplyDeleteI'm still lurking around :) here's a link http://www.dailyjobcuts.com the layoffs seem to be picking up to me. Kev
Good afternoon Kev ! Hope all is well with you.....I think layoffs probably have picked up due to the present uncertain pre-election environment.... folks are sitting on their hands , waiting to see what will happen before making business decisions....A couple of links below to check out !
Deletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/germans-arent-buying-merkel-vision-for.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/gun-shot-fired-friday-afternoon-at.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/deep-horizon-spill-news-where-is-fresh.html
Hi Fredw,
ReplyDeleteI'm doing well and hope you are too, you may be right about waiting on the election but I think its also possible that even with all the stimulus that the consumer is retrenching a bit more due to the nearly $4 gas and other higher costs of basic living.
I loved seeing the Germans boo Merkel and sadly not surprising about the BP spill.
Take care and keep up the good work,
Kev
thanks Kev .... be safe out here - things are getting a tad strange.......
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/maasive-amounts-of-gas-500-billion-cubi.html
ReplyDeleteApart from recent news on the ever growing sinkhole , anyone following the Monday nite explosion ?
I saw the headline but you had a lot more information, the bunker explosion is a curious thing. Kev
Deletehttp://lasinkhole.wordpress.com/2012/10/19/not-so-crazy-the-minden-explosion-sinkhole-connection/
ReplyDeletesomething to ponder......
Interesting idea, I don't guess we will ever find out what really happened though.
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Good evening Kev - one thing we do know , that sinkhole keeps getting larger almost daily. And if you look at the most recent photos and commentary , there are concerns about additional sinkholes developing....... And there is alot of methane coming to the surface , which is quite dangerous.
Delete"Breaking news of a mass shooting at the Azana Salon and Spa at the Brookfield Square Mall. Details still scarce but at least 4 people reported wounded and 3 more patients expected, emergency responders are on the ground, and the mall has been put on lockdown."
ReplyDeletehttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-21/mass-shooting-brookfield-square-mall-wisconsin
Another rally cry for those determined to nullify the 2nd amendment.
Everybody watching the storm? Fredw you may be in for some weather correct? I like following the forum on accuweather here's the thread for Sandy. The weather geeks are adding comments like crazy http://forums.accuweather.com/index.php?showtopic=30097&st=6500
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Morning Kev - we are expecting monday / Tuesday to be interesting ! Here are some items to ponder including my " Sandy " thread - as we move further into the weekend , will expand the Sandy thread as news / interesting items are published.....
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/latest-news-on-louisiana-sinkhole.html updated through Saturday morning at the time of this post
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-watch.html updated through Saturday morning at the time of this post
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/weekend-news-on-greece-and-euroland.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/syria-iran-iraq-items-of-day-hunt-for.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/benghazi-issues-just-wont-go-away-and.html
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA_SURVEILLANCE_VIDEO?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-26-20-18-22
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President Barack Obama said repeatedly Friday that his administration would "find out what happened" and punish those responsible, but he twice ducked questions about whether U.S. officials denied requests for help.
"We're going to gather all the facts, find out exactly what happened, and make sure that it doesn't happen again, but we're also going to make sure we bring to justice those who carried out these attacks," Obama said in an interview with Denver television station KUSA.
( CIA says it didn't give stand down orders , Obama say he doesn't know what happened thus how could he have given the Stand down Order - did Hillary or Panetta give Stand down Orders ? If not , who did ?)
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/10/26/panetta-critics-monday-morning-quarterbacking-white-house-handling-of-libya-attack/
DeleteWASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — Defense Secretary Leon Panetta calls the criticism of the Obama administration’s handling of the Libya terror attack “Monday morning quarterbacking.”
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Panetta said that they didn’t have enough “real-time information” to send military forces to respond.
“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta said, according to The Associated Press. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
Gen. Carter Ham is the head of U.S. Africa Command and Gen. Martin Dempsey is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
( When does Panetta , Ham and Dempsey fall on their swords ? )
http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/37144547/Interesting-Rumor-Concerning-General-Carter-Ham-and-Stand-Down-Order.aspx
DeleteHam is out....... replaced by General Rodriquez , his former second in command....
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/navy-replaces-admiral-leading-mideast-strike-group-because-of-ongoing-investigation/
Delete( Commander of USS Stennis Strike Group sent back to home base - very , very odd Generals Ham and Gaouette relieved of Command at almost the same time.... Did they rebuke direct orders from Panetta or Obama 's orders regarding Benghazi or is this a result of something else ? ) Key text below......
In an unusual move, the Navy has replaced an admiral commanding an aircraft carrier strike group while it is deployed to the Middle East. The replacement was prompted by an Inspector General’s investigation of allegations of inappropriate leadership judgment.
Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette, the commander of the USS John C. Stennis strike group, is being returned to the United States for temporary reassignment.
In a statement the Navy said it had approved a request made by Vice Adm. John W. Miller, the Commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, to temporarily reassign Gaouette “pending the results of an investigation by the Navy Inspector General.”
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A Navy official familiar with the circumstances of the investigation said it involved allegations of “inappropriate leadership judgment” and stressed it was not related to personal conduct.
I wonder if these guys were opposed to attacking Iran, I remember reading that some of the upper level military was opposed to any attack on Iran and there was speculation that they were hampering the crazy neocon attempts to get one started.
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Karl Denninger's site had some info indicating that they were relieved because they were trying to save the ambassador and the others. It seems to me they (the totus) wanted the guy dead. I watched a short documentary about the attack and some very credible sources were saying there was no way that the white house and others were not seeing the whole thing unfold in real time. It was 7 hours from the time the attack started until the ambassador was killed. We could have had boots on the ground in 2hrs and air support even faster. There is nothing to low for this guy to do.
DeleteMy take on the items I have read was that General Ham attempted to respond to the Benghazi attack of the Consulate and the multiple requests for assistance , General Ham was told to stand down ( and said the hell with that ) and as he was getting the response ramped up , was suddenly relieved of his Command by General Rodriquez ( his Second in Command.. ) That is simply incredible and will make for interesting future Congressional Hearings I'm sure.
DeleteRegarding General Gaouette ( Commander of the Stennis Strike Force ) and what was the basis of the alleged " lack of leadership judgment " , I have not seen anything shedding further light - other than it wasn't personal conduct. As the Stennis Strike Force was due to be deployed in the Gulf , a reasonable surmise may be that it was related to that mission. In time , I'm sure we will learn more......
Hi Fredw, thanks for the links and stay safe. Our weather could be interesting, looks like we are potentially in for some rain, winds and slight chance of some snow. It was 80 and sunny Thursday looks like 32 Tuesday morning. Strange, I'll need to get some plants covered up.
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Thanks Kev - very much seems like the proverbial calm before the storm.....as always , I update my links as additional info becomes available..... if it starts raining like heck , hopefully the power stays on and riding the storm out is not too bad to manage.....
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-update-sunday-october.html
ReplyDeleteToday's thread for Hurricane Sandy ( link to the prior thread included ) , lots of important items of the day - NYC transportation items , Evac zone 1 notice , DC Fed offices closed Monday , air travel cancellations -- as well as the current information on Hurricane Sandy.....
Be safe everyone in the danger zones........
Hey Fredw, I hope you made it thru with no issues. Pretty windy here but no snow, not much rain and the power is still on. Kev
DeleteMorning Kev ! Made it through the storm without any problems ( apart from the lights winking last night and having the TV get knocked off momentarily about a dozen times during the evening ) My office is closed for the second day in a row so I'm catching up on the news while sipping my coffee ! Sandy did not disappoint - quite the storm , deceptively strong as even though reported wind speed at landing was about 90 mph , central pressure was about 939 mb - which equates to a Cat 3 or 4 storm...... the breadth of damage and intensity for areas in Sandy's path underline this was not a so called Cat 1 storm. I will get out on the road in a few hours to see how bads things are - no trees down for me , but lots of branches down. One neighbor did lose a tree but fortunately his house wasn't hit !
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear you made it through fine - you off or working today ?
I worked, not much fun. I'm very glad you came through fine and had a good day.
DeleteKev
Thanks ! Will be glad to get back in the saddle and back to work Wednesday......
Deletehttp://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=819050#.UJAH2IY3gkY Trial balloon ?
ReplyDeleteThe Federal Emergency Management Agency is preparing for Hurricane Sandy to disrupt next week's elections, agency Administrator Craig Fugate said Monday afternoon.
"We are anticipating that, based on the storm, there could be impacts that would linger into next week and have impacts on the federal election," Fugate said on a conference call with reporters.
But any potential tinkering with Election Day would bring a bevy of legal issues.
"Our chief counsel's been working on making sure that we have the proper guidance," he added. "We're going through the regulatory policy and making sure all that's in place and we can support it."
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Interesting times indeed..
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http://hillbuzz.org/trick-or-treat-is-matt-drudge-going-to-finally-out-barack-obama-as-our-first-gay-president-25621
DeleteTrick or Treat? Is Matt Drudge going to finally out Barack Obama as our “first gay president”?
So, Matt Drudge is having some Halloween fun.
He’s teasing that a sex scandal is going to rock the campaign…
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http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/01/video-dominican-hookers-accuse-senator-menendez-of-underpaying-them/
DeleteSex scandal did not involve Obama - Drudge played some games again.......
I don't care for drudge anymore, though he may still have some good stories. Kev
DeleteYeah , I know what you mean.... since I dropped the piece , thought I would just follow up with what Drudge had to say.....
ReplyDeleteOh I appreciate what you are doing and if I was blogging like you are I would be visiting his site. Ten years ago I made his site a regular visit but just lost interest/respect for him. Not a comment on your post, just a verbalization of my disappointment with him.
DeleteKev
I always liked the way DRUDGE presented the headlines, densely packed and quite readable. I still keep it as one of my home pages but now I only use it to tell me what the right wing talking points are going to be today. It definitely as "fair and balanced" as FOX news and there's usually a good laugh there somewhere.
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My thought on Drudge is that you have to take what he offers ( not his links per se to msm or blogs , but his "product " ) , with grains of thought. He does play some games , amuses himself ..... Regardless , it is a resource and his collection of links covers a wide stretch.....
ReplyDeleteI found it interesting after dropping hints this would rock the Campaign and hinting the President wa in the mix , it turned out to be something unrelated to the President......
The games like that are probably why I lost respect/interest in his site plus I'm much more libertarian than right or left wing, though I no longer waste my time actually participating in the charade that's called elections. I will admit he is probably still a good resource.
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So Fredw, do you think they are understating the hurricane damage or overstating it? I have a hard time believing that they are accurately portraying the damage/future effects, currently the impression they are giving seems to be that some coastal areas/ Staten Island were hit hard but that things will be much better in a week or so. Not knowing just guessing, I'm thinking some of the important things like utilities/transportation is going to be a lot longer than that getting back to normal
Good afternoon Kev - while there is a degree of sensationalism present and the media has grabbed the story and run with it with great gusto, my thought is the damage and aftermath observed in New Jersey and New York is very real.....NJ is divided by Interstate 195 ( think Trenton )....above Trenton is where you see the gas shortages ( 75 percent of stations out of gas or power ) while below Trenton 90 percent of gas stations are functioning ( exclude the NJ shore naturally )
ReplyDeleteRegarding NY - a good portion of the outer boroughs - seem like third world nation territories.... no power , food , gas - like a war zone. That should start to change as fuel becomes available and power restored - but it has been quite bad. I have a Cousin in the Bronx who my Brother and I have tried to reach without success. So , I don't think the aftermath is being overstated for NY .
For other areas - to be frank , aftermath in other states has not been reported in the level of detail ( of NJ and NY ) so it's hard to say where things stand in those locales.....
Thanks for the update, hope your cousin is alright and gets in contact with you soon. Actually does sound quite a bit worse than the impression I'm getting from watching the weather channel, they are showing some severe damage but also a lot of not so damaged places and showing the casinos opening back up. So I was thinking only a few places suffered much severe damage. I'm not sure the MSM is really covering the aftermath much, I don't watch a lot of MSM so not sure maybe I'm just missing it.
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Did ya catch this one Kev ?
Deletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/trillions-of-dollars-worth-of.html
That's some crazy stuff there..
NW Guest
ps, Another great find fredw :)
Kev , to get the Mad Max sense on NY ( BTW , I believe Gov Chris Christie in NJ has handled things much better than Mayor Bloomberg or Gov Cuomo to date ) , check the following :
Deletehttp://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/when_are_we_gonna_get_some_ing_help_T35TrXo1FCdu7YRBmQkQ8L
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/desperate_dash_for_free_fuel_l2MbJN8dRsSTYQW0lnsf0I
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-residents-arm-looters-article-1.1196031
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227307/Hurricane-Sandy-Misery-2-5-million-STILL-power-days-lawlessness-fear-over.html
Hey NW Guest - great to see you here and glad you found the post about the missing / destroyed stock / bond / derivatives certificates interesting ! I thought they way 10 - 15 trillion in destroyed financial records was so casually dismissed as important was a gas - if those records weren't fricking important , why were they kept by DTCC in the first ?
DeleteDouble like NW Guest/ Fredw. Here's a youtube video from Dawson about Cape Hatteras and Sandy, sounds like it was pretty bad there and not been covered. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2UQ_z50GkA
DeleteAnd here's another Fred I read, http://www.fredoneverything.net/A_Surrender.shtml not sure I agree with the surrender part but still a good read.
Kev
ReplyDeletekev , the links aren't operative ( btw , fredoneverything isn't me ) .... some items below at the link regarding the election / horse race......I am pretty sure we will not have a winner Wednesday morning...... As far as being in the ocean at Cape Hatteras in a boat with sails in a hurricane , the word "fool " comes to mind , regarding that Ship Captain !
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/weekend-election-thread-hurricane-sandy.html
Like - none of the links (including yours) here work like normal for me but if you highlight them and right click on them it will give you the option to open in a new window.
DeleteAnd agree I wonder why the hell the Bounty was out there. The video is about the damage to the island though.
Kev
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/did-ecb-break-its-own-rules-regarding.html
ReplyDeleteECB just caught lying ........
I can't understand why people a so upset about the Sandy response. Long lines at gas stations, no power for weeks after the storm, shortage of food and water at local stores, roads blocked and people unable to return to their homes. Has anyone been paying attention to what's happened in Fl, Al, La, Ms. ? We have been there and done that, several times. In my area, we had 2 Cat 3's within 9 months.
ReplyDeleteI'll warn everyone, the next issue is the insurance companies. We have several families that have not yet settled for a hurricane in 2004. Let the law suits begin.....
Panhandler
New Nat Graph 'Doomsday Preppers' Season starts next week:
Deletehttp://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/?gclid=CNea0KeytrMCFYN_QgodNjgA7A
What's that ol' Boy Scout motto ?? --Always be prepared--.
NW Guest
that is correct.......
DeleteLike I've cringed when they have compared this to Katrina, yes a lot of damage from Sandy but not the same.
DeleteKev
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/even-in-tough-times-early-during.html
ReplyDeleteThought I would highlight some positive things that occurred during the storm and aftermath - the human spirit has not been completely lost , despite the glum headlines we all have read !
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/war-watch-syria-libya-and-iran-items.html
ReplyDeleteNote the article where it's noted Val Jarett is leading talks with the Iranians - just what the heck is a white house political adviser doing State Department type work ????
If I were the Iranians, I'd be really suspicious of her or any backdoor negotiations.
DeleteKev
Kev , I think it's unlikely that Val Jarret will pull the wool over Iranian eyes.......it just remains to be seen if a political deal is cut , what the terms are - and will Israel abide by whatever deal is cut ?
ReplyDeleteHi Fredw, Like, the Iranians have been been playing what they've been dealt pretty well so far, so I'm hoping you are correct.
DeleteWhat is really funny is the number of people who are going to be pissed about this election, like the bankers republican avatar is better than the bankers democrat avatar. Sorry in advance if I offend anyone here with that statement, but imho, the only change that comes with presidential elections is change for the worse, and I think I could make the case that has happened with every president since JFK. Okay there could be some debate about whether carter was worse than nixon, but I still think he was.
Have you heard from your cousin?
Kev
Morning Kev ( WE finally did reach my cousin - he is fine and thanks for asking ) ...... Today we have the status quo continuing - Obama / Dems running Senate and GOP running the House.......Fiscal Cliff still looms , the Middle East still a mess , Europe still a mess..... the Election Circus is over , now we are going to be returned to our regularly scheduled disaster state......
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/as-reminder-when-election-circus-leaves.html
Like Kev
DeleteWhere's Mick when you need a good post election rant?
ReplyDeleteCould this be the first signs of the big boom? KD seems to think so. Tickercon 1
ReplyDeletehttp://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=213610
Panhandler
like what's not to like about a "big boom" :)
DeleteKev
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/as-greece-continues-its-protests.html
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/jesus-grab-wheel-news-that-just-makes.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-police-state-is-gearing-up.html
Stuff to ponder.......
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DeleteThe police state does appear to be gearing up, I'm hoping the clutch goes out.
Kev
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/spain-starting-to-go-down-asset-sale.html
ReplyDeleteGreece unemployment number hits 25.4 percent , youth unemployment hits 58 percent - but note while 1.3 million are classified as unemployed , another 3.37 million aren't counted as they are classified as economically unavailable ! If the workforce is about 5.2 million is Greece ( but another 3.37 million have been excluded ) , isn't the true unemployed number about 50 percent if you add that 3.37 million back into the total workforce number ?
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/now-that-election-is-over-we-start-to.html
ReplyDeleteWhen I posted this originally , who would have thought the buried news would have included a months long investigation into the CIA Director ( why didn't the FBI Director tell the President about their investigation , does anyone believe Hilary , Val Jarret , Pete Rouse ( White House Chief of Staff ) , Tom Donilon ( National Security Council chief ) , Sec of Defense Panetta , had no clue about this ? In fact , if the Newsmax piece is accurate , he should have been forced to resign well before the Benghazi debacle on Sept 11th......
link "Petraeus was scheduled to testify before the House and Senate Intelligence committees on Thursday regarding the events surrounding September 11, as Congress gears up for a week of hearings related to the attack. Mark Knoller at CBS News tweets that he will no longer be testifying in light of his resignation, but acting CIA director Mike Morell will testify in his place"
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Extremely convenient timing......
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DeleteHmm , was General Petraeus having more than one affair ? ? FBI probe started due to email threats from Paula Broadwell to another woman ..... shady affair getting even murkier......
Resigning from the CIA won't stop him from testifying if Congress issues a subpoena. He can refuse to testify, but would be held in contempt of Congress. As a retired military officer, I doubt he would risk his retirement.
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I think he will be dragged into a hearing at some point , just like they will have to drag Hillary in.....the testimony will be behind closed doors and we will never know what was really said......
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ReplyDeleteLeaking classified material appears to be okay if : !) you are the CIA Director and the info goes to your lover ; 2) if there is an Election to be won and there is a need to puff up a bull shit Seal Team 6 killed Osama Bin Laden movie by favored Hollywood Directors.
For any would be whistleblowers - heed the warning.... the Administration apparently might put you on a kill list if the dirt is really bad and our Courts will clear the military if any such murders occur....
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Kev
It seems obvious to me that both the dems and the reps had knowledge of the Petraeus investigation long before the election. Noone seems to be outrages at the coverup. For reasons unknown BOTH parties decided to keep it under wraps until after the election. The Dems reason seems clear enough bur I'm not sure about the Reps. Could it be that the revalation of a stained Petraeus would have screwed up the "Blame Obama for Benghazi" narative? Cynics all around. -MM
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DeleteDoesn't look like the GOP is going to let Gen Petraeus slink away without giving testimony ....
Okay not political or macro economic but I recently found a site that I've been enjoying
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Kev
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/doomsday-scenario-is-expanding.html
ReplyDeletePossible harmonic tremors ( precursor to a volcanic explosion - in this case perhaps methane explosion ) ..... one thing that has concerned me , apart from the seismic activity , is the reports of the cave floor rising very significantly since September without any explanation from officials why this is occurring or what is causing same ......
Hey fredw,, NW Guest 'ere, I also read 'The Oil Drum' everyday and one of the regular commenters-Rockman- said on Oct 24 that he was ready to start drilling a well 5 miles from the stinky sinkhole the next day. http://www.theoildrum.com/node/9579/925312 erk..
DeleteAnd while I'm at it,reguarding: http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/is-petition-from-louisiana-harbinger-of.html
WTF good does it do to petition an admin who's legitimacy is junk?
What a messy mess..
Haven't read what Rockman plans to do - what does he seek to achieve ?
DeleteRegarding the petition - consider it a sign of growing dissension - which will pick up..... however , once a petition gets 25,000 signatures , I believe the WH has to respond ! which should be interesting to read !
A: He's drilling for oil.
DeleteB: Just because Obunghead got reinstalled doesen't clear up the eligibility issues.
A ) Has he noticed anything out of the ordinary ?
DeleteB) Sad to say , neither party will take that issue on , it was only half - heartedly raised during the past election cycle and by Donald Trump of all people. Supreme Court won't touch the issue - the issue for now ( while real ) , is dead. Heck , I doubt we see anything come from the Solyndra related frauds / Fast and Furious scandals or Benghazi scandals...... the country is pretty comatose right now. The election just proved that........
No, haven't heard anything mentioned as out of the ordinary on the well being drilled by Rockman. All of his comments are here : http://www.theoildrum.com/user/ROCKMAN/comments
DeleteI know the link probably doesn't work , but if you type it into search, you can get them.
And if you ever had any questions about the area, you could jump on the Drumbeat forum and he'd give ya a professional geologist's opinion ;)
And B : Yes it is sad , all the distractions have let the eligibility issue go away unsolved, but that still doesn't make everything kosher.
How can you submit a petition to an admin which may not be eligible under the rule of law and does not follow the rule of law ?
We're definitly in very dangerous, uncharted waters and headed for the rocks.
Best hopes for these United States staying intact, to our Freedom, and restoring the rule of law.
NW
Thanks NW ! during the Deep horizon saga ( back when the story was covered by msms and was hot and heavy at the Oil Drum , I recall reading many excellent comments from RM. He struck me as someone who knew what he was talking about , definitely someone working in the Industry....
Deleteand B) 15 States have citizens starting petitions...... if those petitions attracted a hundred thousand folks signing on , it might become an issue the msm would have to acknowledge......
Thank you fredw.. In Feb, I will have been reading 'The Oil Drum' everyday for five years. Right after oil went to $100 for the first time..
DeleteSaw you follow-up article on the 15 states earlier after it posted. un,,real.
Ann Barbhardt was talking about that same subject yesterday on her 8 part vid series. Also states splitting in Europe, It was a very good lecture on the status of the economy and why it's about to implode. They have already seized her bank funds,,she expects them to sieze her property any day and haul her off in the black SUVs. It's been a year since she closed her brokerage after MF Global stole their clients $$. Time has flown , eh ?
cheers, NW
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NW .... Ann is sharp , when she focuses on topics of her specific expertise ( such as commodity trading ) she truly is excellent. I respect her spunk , she has taken a position and will stand her ground and do what she believes is right.... you have to respect that !
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ReplyDeleteBreaking down Romney's Election Day tech and organizational breakdowns.......
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/11/the-petition-to-let-texas-secede-from-the-u-s-to-be-reviewed-by-the-white-house/
ReplyDelete25,000 signatures..... WH response required.
We are living in the Reality Tyranny Show, people. Anything big is orchestrated. Even surprises have their narrative orchestrated. Most here probably know that Obama hasn’t spent $1 since 1/2010, but the Republican House has given the Treasury away to special interests. The Republicans then blame the Democrats and the Democrats play their role as big spenders – even though the Republicans are 100% responsible. The narrative, however false, is of prime importance in the Reality Tyranny Show.
ReplyDeleteNow, go ask some folks around you – what party is responsible for all the spending the last 2 years? I bet OVER 90% incorrectly blame the democrats. Why? Because the Reality Tyranny Media told them so.
In the Ultimate History Lesson, John Taylor Gatto nailed it… to paraphrase… [t]here was a 2nd American Revolution in the late 1800s. It wasn’t won through force of arms, but through force of insight into how public opinion was created.
I have seen the enemy… and it is us. We don’t know how to think critically. We don’t even know how one can know something. Almost everyone sees a report on the part of Reality Tyranny Media designed to perform the role of “good cop” for them and they think it is true.
The first three of the classical seven liberal arts, the trivium, instructs us how to differentiate between the known and the unknown.
Some required reading for every informed citizen:
Search:
“archive.org Tragedy and Hope”
“archive.org Propaganda Edward Bernays”
“archive.org Art of War Sun Tzu”
Also worth the time is viewing “The Ultimate History Lesson with John Taylor Gatto” which is free on YouTube.
Unfortunately, those engaged in reality are fairly few, but growing in number.
Has anyone seen “Dreams of My Real Father” on Netflix? I think a very strong case was made that Obama was not born in a Kenyan manger or anywhere else near Kenya at all. I also think they make a great case that Obama didn’t have a British father… that Barack Obama, Sr. was a hoax of a father.
ReplyDeleteI didn’t like the narrative that Obama is some kind of Communist that despises Big Finance Capital and their corporate fronts. Clearly, they OWN him and use him to go all reverse Robinhood on the suckers that support him (or Romney).
It also dawned on me that we’ve had 30+ years of CIA in the White House starting with Bush the elder. GWB was CIA via his father. Bill Clinton had ties to the CIA via the Mena, AK CIA drug running operations. Obama’s known mother and grandfather were both CIA.
Where did the CIA come from? Skull and Bones. Where did the Skull and Bones come from? The Bavarian Illuminati.
Yeah, they are running our Imperial Presidency, but don’t worry, they don’t exist.
While the chess pieces have magnetic personalities to manipulate and control the population (Zbigniew Brzezinski), the real enemy is the Grand Master chess player.
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false" -- William Casey,CIA Director(from first staff meeting)
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Even better for the PTBs , when Americans become so numb they don't basically care what the truth is......
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ReplyDeleteLooks like the petitions have struck a nerve - up to 40 or so petitions from citizens of various states so far - Texas has more than 68,000 signatures so far...... so maybe this counter- petition is a response.
Do you think there is any chance that the petitions to secede are just a government op to identify problem citizens? Secession is a nice thought, but I don't see where even Texas has a chance in hell to get enough votes for it unless conditions get a whole lot worse. Not that I don't think things will get a whole lot worse eventually.
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Morning Kev - I view the petitions as an expression of sentiment , although the counter petition was quite interesting to me ! The chances of a State leaving the US ( if I recall that was attempted before - and the Federal government fought the Civil War to preserve the Union ) is less than zero ! In that regard , note Gov Rick Perry is not on board with the notion ! Consider it a sign of the times......
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ReplyDeleteSuperstorm Sandy formed as solar flare 1598 spewed out an M9.0 on 10/20, and an X1.8 on 10/23 along with 4 other M class. http://www.solarham.net/top10.txt
and,,,
San Juan County,(across the bay from Nate), vote to ban growing anything with GMOs:
http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-san-juan-county-votes-to-ban-gmos-20121107,0,140339.story
Ok, three random items , this one is crackin me up..
Seattle voters finally approves funding for construction of the replacement of the 'seawall' that keeps the city from sliding into Puget Sound . The bay is 300' deep out in front of the city and it tapers down to over 600' at the entrance to Elliot Bay.
Anyway, construction won't be allowed during Summer months because it will hurt tourism along the waterfront . Construction In the water won't be allowed from Feb to Aug because of endangered salmon laws. So that leaves 'em Oct through Jan to work.Winter.bwaahhahaaa..
The existing seawall is JUNK !! It will FAIL in a quake,,helllo ??? Also, the S end of the seawall must be replaced before they can start tunneling to replace the decrepid viaduct wich wll also fall in a quake. They will be tunneling 100' deep adjacent to the new seawall,below sea level. un,,real. Replacement timeframe of the wall now estimated at 7 years . One mile long, SEVEN years...(weather permitting,no large quakes interm). :)
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019676930_seawall14m.html
NW
Lol ! politics NW ..... politics !
ReplyDeleteIt would appear now that the farce of the election is over, our regularly scheduled war and economic collapse can resume.
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Kev
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I really liked Doug Noland's piece today, The Credit Bubble Bulletin
ReplyDelete"But any inflationary cycle “advantage” comes with a significant downside. For one, never in the history of mankind has an inflationary cycle so spurred and rewarded financial speculation. Global risk markets have evolved into essentially one historic policy-induced speculative Bubble. Financial speculation was nurtured into one gigantic “crowded trade,” which manifested into the dysfunctional “risk on, risk off” trading dynamic. Increasingly aggressive policy responses over too many years created a speculation monster that will not be easily contained or tamed."
Kev
bad link sorry The Credit Bubble Bulletin try two
ReplyDeleteThat one works, I've been copying the example from the instructions and replacing the necessary parts, missed deleting some of the example on the first try.
DeleteKev Needs more coffee :)
Another link, Urban Survival ,This is a different topic but Urban survival has been following Patrick Geryl's quake predictions and he seems to doing pretty well. The predictions are just for time frame and size, no locations so not as useful but the size of the quake he is predicting to show up in December is very interesting. 10. I've been following the posted predictions for a while, here's the next one "Next weekend we may get an 8+ in that 25-28 window." I'm thinking much greater than chance accuracy so far, so I'll be watching for this one
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Good afternoon Kev ! While not really a fan of Pat Geryl specifically or quake predictably generally , I can agree we are seeing more activity lately. Three 6.0 mag or higher quakes in the past three days , which is unusual ! I will file a mental note to see what occurs during the window Pat has noted - if he's right , will give a tip of the proverbial hat.
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I just looked at the US Debt Clock on my rounds of net surfing, haven't checked it in a couple of weeks.
ReplyDeleteThe $ amount in the 'currency and credit derivatives' box has DROPPED roughly $124 trillion and is dropping about the same amount that it has been increasing since last spring.
What this means, I do not know, just an observation..
NW
Kev
DeleteInteresting, I wonder what assumptions feed their "clocks", their about page says they use complex formulas and the best sources but that is pretty vague, maybe it is just a plotted trend from the latest number reported from their "best source", seems counter intuitive for that number to be declining though.
Kev
Has the bubble sprung a leak ? Somebody betta tweek the QEternity knob..Print baby print! ;)
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http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/geab-69-katrina-sandy-from-one.html
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/kyle-bass-monthly-letter-must-read-for.html
Two good pieces to check this weekend..... If folks have the time , check the full letter from Bass.......
I like the GEAB's but I do think they are a bit over optimistic about europe's condition.
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I would agree the GEAB authors have a certain euro-centric blindspot ..... they can't see or won't acknowledge that the same failings / flaws / black holes that they identify regarding the US , are present in the Eurozone and EU ( and the magnitude of the problems are considerably higher in the Eurozone , which has structural issues not present in the US . Said problems include the fact that in contrast to the US , no actual fiscal union in the Eurozone , no financial harmonization among the countries in the eurozone , no common tax rates which creates issues of competition , the blood sucking EU as a financial albatross which the EU has to support - note the ongoing refusal of the EU to trim its greedy demands to continue to expand its budgets while austerity is piled on the backs of not just PIIGS but also France , the UK and other EU countries who are starting to say no mas !
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http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/global-risk-on-for-assets-seems-based.html
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Kev , following up on our discussion regarding europe , consider these two posts reflecting the " vast wasteland of the real " aka Europe !
That's what I'm talking about, sadly we aren't any better off here.
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http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/eurogroup-meeting-on-tuesday-did-this.html
DeleteKev , tell me the sequencing set forth in this post isn't a transparent attempt to once again pull the Troika's football away poor Charlie Brown Greece ?
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/eurogroup-fails-as-expected-to-reach.html
ReplyDeleteLucy ( Troika ) pulls the football away from Charlie Brown ( Greece ) as predicted....... No deal announcement until after the Catalonia election
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/gaza-mayhem-brought-to-tel-aviv-where.html
Iran , Syria , Lebanon and Gaza are being drawn into one regionalized conflict - which will be forced to happen one way or another....
I don't think a Regional conflict will go as expected, I'm guessing that this war we are pressing for will be won by the Iranians. Just a hunch that years of sanctions and seeing how we operate has given them a chance to prepare for the conflict.
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Kev , the key is what is " winning " ? And as defined by whom , through whose eyes ? Despite the very one-sided destruction that has befallen Gaza ( Similar to Lebanon in 2006 in its war with Israel , a considerable consensus is Hamas is the " winner " here as Israel did not accomplish what they set out to accomplish and Hamas has / is perceived to have gained more than expected in the so called ceasefire. The destruction to Gaza itself , loos of civilian lives and who knows how many folks there were wounded - the perception is that Israel didn't get it done.
ReplyDeleteWith that as context , a Regional war will be an asymmetrical war , the boundaries of which constitute unknown unknown at this time. If Iran is attacked , does Iran have sleeper cells in Europe and the US who could be activated for terrorists acts ? Does Iran have WMDs which we don't know about but could be deployed here ? Can Iran cause enough damage to other GCC countries that oil could be sufficiently cutoff from Europe as well as the West and Asis - thereby harming the global economy ? In a regional campaign involving Syria and Iran vs Nato and GCC nations , do wee see Russia and / or China get involved in the fighting - could they realistically stay out and maintain global credibility ?
Many questions - hope we don't have to find out what the answers are .
Yes I agree despite taking the harder licks in the fight Hamas did win previously, like standing up to the bully in the schoolyard and get beat up but landing a few punches in the fight and more importantly not giving in to their will. I would say that Hezbolla did even better and forced Israel to withdraw. I expect Iran will be able to close the straight of Hormuz and keep it closed, and possibly inflict more damage that she receives. No proof, just taking a small amount of data (iran/iraq war, kosovo,recent drone loss,sunburns), giving a lot of credit to the Iranians for thinking outside the box (I think their home grown military equipment has been designed to counter our high tech advantage), believing what the Iranians say about their defensive capabilities (their recent claims about the drone appear truthful, I actually expect they are understating capabilities/ Sun Tzu The Art of War)and maybe just wishing that the bullies get their face smashed in so the start acting polite and mind their own business.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Iran has sleeper cells, they have gone to extreme lengths to avoid war and the discovery of one of those would negate that effort. No wmd's here either, unless you count $20 gas.
I think Iran can cause a lot of damage to our puppet states in the vicinity, the Saudi's have got to be on their list and it probably wouldn't take much incite the proles in that place.
No Russia, China probably under the table help but nothing overt unless they decide it's time for all out WW3.
There is all of my arm chair opinion, have a great thanksgiving!
Kev
Please ignore spelling and grammatical errors, it was perfect in my head, just not when I typed it out. :)
DeleteHey Kev , check the video on the first link in my post below...... runs through what could happen in the event of the inevitable attack on Iran by Israel and the US .... Happy Turkey Day - will be heading out around four for my Turkey Din din... God Bless you and your family ......
DeleteHappy Thanksgiving to ALL ! A few items to ponder over the Holiday.....
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/on-thanksgiving-lets-be-thankful-it.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/austrian-parliament-hears-80-percent-of.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/today-skynet-in-china-and-darpa-in-us.html
Hi Fredw I Hope you had a great Thanksgiving and black Friday if you are in to that. I'm working, but I don't have any ideas on what to get my girls anyway.
ReplyDeleteI guess I'm am not completely alone in thinking that a war with Iran isn't a good idea, very odd that it shows up the same day as my post. Maybe Tyler is lurking :)
Sounds like at least 80% of the Austrians gold will be very difficult to retrieve, looks like Chavez was pretty smart if he actually got it all back.
The robot/darpa article creeps me out, I've got to admit that I consider the "skynet" scenario a possibility in the future.
Have a great one.
Kev
Morning Kev ( off today , not into black friday nonsense ) ... Thanksgiving was great - rather than muck it up with a crowd scene on black friday , I will take my dad out to dinner later today ! Self aware killing machines are scary but I think that is coming - after all , at some point the PTBs fear regular cops and soldiers may draw the line at shooting civilians while a machine will just follow its program and " Kill Baby , Kill " Chavez was smart , Germany , Netherlands and Austria seem to be waking up to the dilemma that they fear the gold is gone but are terrified to have THAT CAT out of the bag. The problem for them is the kitty is running around , is out of the bag and doesn't want to slink off somewhere and not be noticed by their citizens.
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/while-greek-households-losses-54.html
ReplyDeleteKev , check the europe update - does the EU and Troika run a masters class in lies / delay / hubris / purposely confusing back tracking missive proliferations ... or what ?
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/europe-budget-summit-collapses-greece.html
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I think you are right about the Germans/dutch/austrians, they know it's not there but also know that the whole system comes crumbling down if that becomes common knowledge. I guess they will be allowing some time in hopes that it can be "found".
DeleteAnd yes, lies, delays and etc. not much else they can do is there? Print like crazy I guess but they have to know that will cause it's own problems and they still would end up spending more than they got in. The big question is what do they hope to gain from delaying? I read an article 10-12 years ago, in it the guy speculated that the Fed knew (had to know)it's policies were going to destroy the economy in the near future (about now I would think) and therefore the Fed must think that the long term didn't matter or even that there wasn't a long term future. I still think about the possibility that the guy was correct, would explain all the actions to keep the ponzi going a little longer no matter what the long term expense will be, the casual disregard of the radiation from fukishima and even the flirting with WW3. Something to keep in mind anyway.
Kev
I agree - I think anyone running a ponzi scheme realizes the game can't last forever , ergo , there is no long term issues to deal with , just short term. Get through today. Then get through tomorrow - repeat this approach day after day. If you consider the economic policies in Europe and the US through the prism of running a ponzi scheme , the approaches we have observed over the recent years start to make sense. Thinking you can solve a debt problem by borrowing more money makes no sense long term ( unless you're running a ponzi scheme and the only thing that matters is flow. )
DeleteThe gold prisoner's dilemma for Austria , Germany , Netherlands et al is the knowledge their countrymen will go apeshitte whenever the news becomes undeniable that the gold has been stolen by NY and London , that there will be no replacement - not in gold , maybe fiat could be offered but who wants that ? the Politicians and Central Bankers know heads could literally roll for that - thus delay / lie / plead with the thieves to play nice / cover up the truth as long as possible from their countrymen. If enough time is bought , perhaps a country like Iran can be looted and said gold there "returned " to those at the front of the borrowed gold line. Or as austerity hits , maybe countries like Italy , Greece , spain and Portugal wil be obligated to "pledge " their gold to secure loans ( said gold will never be seen again. )
So , that might be why austria , Germany and the Dutch will fake it until the NY Fed and BOE somehow get there hands on enough gold to satisfy their claims - the reality is if the gold isn't there , other than War , what option do they have to enforce their claim ?
Back in '08 , oil supply met demand as China was importing oil in record amounts to fill new SPR and oil went to $147, crashing the economy.
DeleteOn Nate's blog late last summer I put up one chart which had :
Available Global Net oil Exports (GNE) minus Chindia's Net Imports (CNI) which would be Available Cumulative Net Exports (CNE)to other than Chindia, versus Global Public Debt (GPD)
Anyhoo, in Oct on The Oil Drum ,commenter Westexas quantified the chart by dividing GPD by CNE and the result is,,, Debt per Barrel (DPB) of CNE .
That amount was $150 DPB in '05 and increased to $525 DPB in '11 .
With that, WT said,,"MY premise is that the oil importing OECD countries are trying to keep their economies,especially the "wants"based portions of their economies,going in the face of declining post'05 supplies of GNE,via massive deficit spending--financed by real creditors and by accomodative CBs--as annual global crude oil prices increased from $25 in '02 to $111 in '11.
Comment and chart found here http://www.theoildrum.com/node/9593/926348
I really liked the new DPB approach to understanding the economy as a 'hole',pun intended ;)
cheers, NW
Trend website reporting : '$10 billion to be invested in Turkey within TANAP Project'
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The TANAP pipeline will transit Azerbaijan NG and feed the Nabbucu West Pipeline from Turkey to Austria.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/28/us-caspian-nabucco-idUSBRE85R13220120628
http://www.nabucco-pipeline.com/portal/page/portal/en/press/Nabucco%20West%20Scenario
Thusly transiting Caspian NG to EU avoiding Russia and,, eliminating the previouly planned NG pipline from Iran through Syria/Turkey to EU:
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90854/7449471.html
Whoops, forgot to write in NW to ID,,LOL
DeleteAlso, Debka reporting US boots on the ground in Sinai for Gaza ceasfire trade:
http://www.debka.com/article/22557/Obama’s-pledge-of-US-troops-to-Sinai-next-week-won-Israel’s-nod-for-ceasefire
While Egypt riots about their new Dictator's decree :
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/11/23/274134/egyptians-torch-morsi-partys-offices/
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/11/23/274156/morsi-defends-constitutional-declaration/
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Also ,, I just made Turkey soup, and it's so fricking good ;)
NW
I'm glad the Egyptians are still fighting for a real government, I wish them luck, it seems no matter what you do or which side you turn to, there is always a banker puppet waiting in the wings to take control.
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Also glad your turkey soup turned out well :)
Regarding Egypt , notice Morsi wasted no time making himself Dictator ( after allegedly taking part / having a role ) in the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas regarding Gaza ) and neither the US or the West knocked this extreme power move by MB Morsi ( quid pro quo ? )
DeleteHome made soup is just the best stuff on earth - i prefer chicken soup but turkey is good , especially with homemade noodles !
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/greece-edging-toward-deal.html
ReplyDeleteUpdated today to reflect Saturday Fin Min Teleconference call on Greece .....
Note Decision date of Monday slipping from 11/26 until perhaps December 3. Also note latest new condition from the IMF which could slow tranche disbursement until as far out as December 14 or until buyback is completed.... This ploy is very sneaky - one has to really wonder if Greece is going to get the shaft as I will explain. First consider this snippet from one article :
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_24/11/2012_471489
Greece is hoping to receive the whole 44 billion euros due to be released from the bailout program next month. As things stand, all of this money will go to cover immediate obligations. Some 24 billion euros will be used to complete the bank recapitalization program, 9 billion will be invested in the buyback scheme, 4.5 billion is needed to cover the primary deficit, 3.5 billion has been slated to reduce state arrears, 3.4 billion is needed to cover four-week T-bills that mature next month and 500 million euros will go toward covering a bond that matures on December 21.
Forget the 44 billion trance is exceeded by the 44.9 in demands upon Greece - le's just focus on the bank recapitalization piece of 24 billion - if there is a private buyback and Greek Banks have been both initial participants in the Greek private investor debt swap ( PSI ) from March 2012 ( which caused massive losses and forced in part this bank recap ) , won't they once again suffer losses if they are subjected once again to haircuts on their Greek debt ? Second , what will the impact be on the Greek Banks on the new Greek bonds they have buying to bail out Sovereign Greece ? If Greek Banks suffer further losses due to both current Greek bonds which suffer losses and / or their residual Greek debt holding from the PSI , is it likely the 24 bank recap is insufficient ? Regardless , can Greece find sufficient interest among private investors without forcing the second PSI to have CAC imposed ? In sum , as the Troika envisions cutting Greece's debt by 40 - 45 billion by way of a second PSI and in light of expected private investor rebellion , I think this just won't fly.
I wouldn't touch any Greek debt with a ten foot pole and I think they want to shaft anybody and everybody they can. They still might do it though I have to admit I think it would take some new trickery and deceit to con the private money to take part. There still seems to be a lot of money out there that's in a desperate search for a place to park, I would have never thought bonds with a negative (or just very low)interest rate would sell, especially in this period of extreme money creation. Desperate money looks like stupid money to me, so who knows, maybe there is some very stupid money out there.
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Above, I noted that there were several solar flares prior to hurricane Sandy forming, one was an X1.8.
ReplyDeleteSo,I've been pondering about weather or not there may have been solar flares prior to hurricane Katrina.
Well,, Katrina formed 8/23/05 in the Bahamas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina
And there was a double solar flare with earth facing CMEs 8/22/05:
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/watchtheskies/aug05_cme.html
Bingo.. NW
Wait,, there's MORE ;
Delete"In less than one month(from 8/22-9/17/05 ) there were 30 M-class flares and 11 X- class solar flares, the largest an X 17.0 on 9/7.
http://www.ann-geophys.net/27/1019/2009/angeo-27-1019-2009.pdf
During that period , there were several large tropical disturbance:
TS Josie , Katrina , TS Lee, Hurricanes Maria , Nate, Ophelia, Philippe,and lovely Rita (which at the time I followed around the globe twice monitering sats)LOL
Do the storms match the flares ? Yes, they do.
Bingo,, NW
Good stuff NW !
DeleteFound one study on the subject:
Deletehttp://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/15322/InTech-The_effects_of_space_weather_on_hurricane_activity.pdf
Kind of an inconvenient correlation to the 'carbon tax' crowd. LOL
Another point to ponder,there were no hurricane landfalls during solar minimum between the last solar cycle and this one.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/12/05/new-hurricane-record-2232-days-and-counting-since-major-hurricane-made-landfall-on-the-usa-last-record-was-year-1900/
http://www.spaceweather.com/glossary/spotlessdays.htm
Hmmmmm...
NW
I think there is a link.
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Here is a site that I find interesting and convincing.
DeleteThe Electric Universe
Kev
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-slog-alleges-eu-and-asian-sources.html
ReplyDeleteLooks like Deutsche Bank and perhaps the US caught playing tungsten salting games ?
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/europe-news-update-november-26.html
Round up on news from Europe and latest on Greasy Greece bull shitte bailout deal .......
http://www.prisonplanet.com/dimon-best-to-lead-treasury-in-crisis-buffett-says.html
ReplyDeleteBest for the banksters anyway,, not for we, the people.
NW
I think I wouldn't let Dimon lead a chain gang in the desert, he would be low man on the totem pole for sure. Kev
ReplyDeleteJamie won't be the Treasury Secretary - but based on the replacement we just saw for Mary shapiro at SEC , don't get your hopes up. We will see another Geithner type or a bankster type....... just not Jamie Dimon !
ReplyDeleteJC would be a qualified candidate.. And he need a new mission since MFG's heist went down so well.
DeleteLike to see Ann Barnhardt's reaction to that one. She cracks me up ;)
NW
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/11/greek-banks-refuse-to-accept-their.html
ReplyDeleteAs I thought ( and mentioned in my prior post here 11/24 ) the issue regarding the buyback as related to the recapitalization issues involving the Greek Banks would be a problem - note the Greek Banks and Greek pension funds are refusing to take part in the voluntary buyback as this will blow them up , coupled with the fact that at the time of the first PSI , they were told this was a one off deal , never going to happen again ! That lie didn't even last a year ! Lol
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/white-house-playing-double-game.html
ReplyDeletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/irans-bushehr-nuclear-reactor-suffered.html
If the US and Israel are involved in efforts to cause Bushehr to explode ( considering the massive civilian loss of life and injuries - not just in Iran but Regionally ) , that would be reckless. Moreover , if Iran possesses any true ability to react against the US not just in the Gulf and Regionally but also reach us here in the States , we are inviting blowback ! Fwiw......
Hi Fredw,
ReplyDeleteYou know it's odd with our economy in critical condition from too much debt and spending that I haven't heard much about the military budget. I don't guess anybody wants to cut that.
And yes even though the story is from Debka, it wouldn't surprise me that we were trying to blow it up even if it would kill millions, innocents don't count when we kill them.
Kev
Good afternoon Kev - regarding the military budget , note the sparring isn't what amount of billions should be trimmed , it's on whether the US can unilaterally and indefinitely detain americans ( as if that really be an issue anyway ) !
ReplyDeleteDebka should always be viewed through their agenda - but the fact remains they do break middle east news first which we later find out confirmed by msm outlets. As there are various sources that bad things have been happening with Iran's nuclear program , I tend to believe there is a fire where we smell the smoke here. Also , note we are starting to hear " fears " regarding Assad's chemical weapons again . something is going to pop with Syria soon !
Regarding civilian deaths , Iraq , Afghanistan , Pakistan , Syria have shown there is no concern regarding collateral damage ..... no reason to think Iran will be different even if the scale could be levels of magnitude greater. And you Congress , the MSM , UN won't say a word !
You are too right. all points. Except I didn't vote,so they aren't my congress :) Yes we have been committing acts of war against Iran and Syria for some time now, so I'm also thinking that since the current "under the table" actions aren't working that we will be getting more overt in our hostility.
DeleteKev
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/syria-seen-as-prepping-chemical-weapons.html
DeleteKev , the Chemical Weapon ( sarin not anthrax this time ) chatter really went apeshiite today ( note UN pulling out so we know action is coming soon ! )
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/syria-seen-as-prepping-chemical-weapons.html
What's scary is not that this happened in Japan , but with the sorry state of infrastructure in the US , it's amazing a disaster a day doesn't occur here ! Of course , we did just have the tanker car spill in Paulsboro , New Jersey that spilled vinyl chloride late last week......
Hi Fredw, The chemical weapons propaganda is pretty thick, we must be planning a false flag to kick off the invasion. Sounds like we have about completed preparations for the war so the kickoff may be soon after Christmas, I don't think they would take a chance on hurting holiday sales, could be wrong though. Yes even the sorry state of our infrastructure would suggest that war is coming sooner than later, at some point the degradation of the civilian base is going to cause a degradation in the support of our massive military, so it's a use it or lose it scenario. BTW, both links were the same article. Joy to the world.....
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Oops on the links ! The second link was for the Sasago tunnel disaster in Japan - posted below. ....
Deletehttp://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-sasago-tunnel-collapse-in-japan.html
I think it's interesting to note how the Syria situation has become hype just as we see the Greek bond buyback floundering but set for a near term decision point ( buyback needs to be wrapped up by 12/12 if Greece is to get the next tranche when the latest EU Summit occurs next week ( 12/13 ) and the next Greek bond redemption is due ( 12/14 )
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/greek-bond-buyback-hitting-snags-greek.html
As the buyback seems troubled right now , we could perhaps see some action in Syria as soon as this weekend.....
Yes if they need to draw attention away from something then it could start anytime. Maybe this is what they want to bury, click here sad about the tunnel but I would expect more failing infrastructure.
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The Brits have done their best to bury the Jimmy Savile mess - not shocked to see how deep the rabbit hole could go......one can imagine quite a few Eurocrats caught up in that one. Similar in one way to what happened in Penn State - part of the speculation was that the former Defensive coordinator for Penn State was running a pedo ring involving rich Penn State alums - that was barely mentioned very early on and then just buried.......... Sandusky was the focal point and no further action was taken to see how deep that rabbit hole went.
DeleteMeanwhile back at the ranch , here are some items to ponder - Syria update , big DB story , " Greece " fire updates.....
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/syria-allegedly-has-loaded-sarin-into.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/deutsche-bank-hid-12-billion-in-losses.html
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/greek-bond-buyback-hitting-snags-greek.html
If we go overt on Syria then I would think that Iran is going to have to get overtly involved too based on their treaty. China will have to decide whether they are going to stand up or roll over too, I believe Russia must have already caved for some sort of deal. And no I don't believe the sarin story.
DeleteI heard a little about the Penn St. speculation, I tend to believe it's probably true and the "royal" speculation I posted too. Great blackmail stuff to keep a conspiracy under wraps.
Shame on Deutsche bank :)and deja vu with the Greek story.
Kev
Interesting brief note on the greek buyback from a greek paper.... discussing game of chicken between Greek banks and hedge funds , but I snipped the last piece to show what the banks have obtained as a condition of participation ! So , Greece gets participation at the level needed from the greek banks , greek banks get major concessions , hedge funds benefit by selling some at the buyback price and hoping for greater appreciation afterwards ...... but this doesn't benefit Greece actually at all ! In another 3- 6 months , Greece will have broken Troika requirements for this bailout as the austerity measures will mandate failure , the concessions given to appease banks , appease citizens from rioting / striking daily in lieu of work , the continued failure to pay taxes will get larger ( rich still won't pay as this is Greece after all )......and then Greece will be looking for another bailout without private investors to squeeze meaningfully - just the Official sector ( which is when Greece will have to really post assets like their gold , oil and gas reserves , state assets , etc... )
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Bank chiefs had a final meeting with Stournaras on Thursday ahead of the decision-making board meetings to be held by all main lenders on Friday. The most likely scenario is that they will all take part, but not with all the bonds they hold.
However, it does look as though banks have had it their way this time, as in return for their participation in the buyback program, they appear to have secured a tax exemption for their losses from the PSI debt restructuring, amounting to taxes of 4.2 billion euros, and from the buyback, equal to 2 billion euros.
They have also reportedly secured the protection of the banks’ governing boards from civil liability.
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/6-events-that-could-happen-non-events.html
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http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/china-and-russia-attempt-to-calm-down.html
Some items to ponder........
Like that was a lot of items :) Most of them reinforcing of my very cynical nature, thank you. I've got to admit that I'm watching 12/21, I'm not expecting the end of the world but am keeping an open mind as to whether it's the end of an "age" and the start of some dramatic "changes". But then again, I've been following Halfpasthuman.com for a long time too.
DeleteFollow up on Geryl, missed the 11/28 call for a 8+, but did get close with his 12/04-12/05 7+ call. Based on the list I have from early Nov, he still has a 7+ on 12/11, an 8+ 12/17-12/18 and a 10+ on 12/21. 7 and greater earthquakes are pretty rare so if he gets any one of those 3 remaining I'll continue to keep an open mind on him. If not, I will be ignoring him.
Iranians captured another drone, I wonder if they have figured out how to hack them.
drone link or maybe we have so many flying over that we are bound to have a few breakdown over their territory.
Kev
Yeah , I did load alot in those posts !
DeleteI have a lunch meeting on 12 /21 which i haven't cancelled - but the CERN aspect is interesting....
As for the quake we just saw , when I saw the initial 7.3 , the first thought that popped in my mind was that a precursor quake ( which did happen before 3/11 in Japan ).... guess we shall see what happens over the next few days on that front....
Iran does seem to have figured out how to hack our drones , not the first time they grabbed one - won't be the last time I suppose. Question is - what can they do with those birds once they get them ?
Syria getting hotter - rebels now seem to have captured one Syria chemical depot ( Al Safira ) and now have access to scuds and chemical agents which could be launched - who attacks first , Rebels , Assad or Nato / GCC forces ?
http://www.debka.com/article/22596/Assad%E2%80%99s-last-warning-to-rebels-before-using-chemical-weapons-West-Israel-on-high-preparedness
I'm thinking Nato/rebels first as usual, 7+ today was a day early, don't know if I will count that or not.
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We know chemical weapons will be used , whether Assad uses them or not , he will be blamed. NATO and GCC will attack once that happens - if it turns out after the fact , it was the rebels , no one from the rebel ranks will be tried for war crimes.... it will just be lost in the fog of war.....
DeleteWhen you fall a day or so ( one side or the other of a quake prediction ) , that's within a reasonable margin of error to me. a 7.1 quake is fairly strong.... I recall when the quake hit near Virginia but that quake registered in Philly ( I was on the thirteen floor and felt the floor do a rumbling move and heard the building groan - a sound you don't want to hear when you're 13 floors up. ) the Virginia quake was 5.8 , epicenter was 38 miles NW of Richmond and still could make Towers shake and groan in Philly..... so imagine what a 7 mag quake must feel like at the epicenter , let alone a 8 or 9 !
Hi Fredw,
ReplyDeleteThe 5.8 certainly got my attention down here in Roanoke and I was on the first floor. I think your right, I should give him credit, just don't want him to be right about the next 2 predicted Dec quakes.
I have no doubt that Assad won't be the one to use chemical weapons and am fully aware that both Libya and Syria are victims of "outside" forces which are utterly without morals and have a free pass to be so, in fact every war crime the so called rebel forces commit is blamed on Assad.
Kev
What were those December dates - I'm sure it's above but too tired to search through the links.......
DeleteKev and MM......I don't have sympathy for Gaddafi , Assad or Saddam. None for Mubarak . All four brutally repressed their people , tortured , murdered numbers we will never know. However , the process in which all four were removed should be a concern - it we could partake in their removal , don't be shocked that somewhere down the road , what's good for the goose , becomes good for the Gander.
ReplyDeleteConditions here in the US will continue to get worse - look at the food stamp usage numbers ( in contrast to the bs numbers we get monthly from the BLS ) ..... what happens if at some point SNAP goes crackle and then pop ? No SNAP , no food for 47 million folks - think that will be received well or might we see hungry folks fight for their lives , protest against the US government ? That seems likely to me . There is no magic money tree and some point the infallible FED will be quite fallible. If financial support for US debt is pulled , interest rates rise and they don't have to rise that notably to put a hitch in the US giddy up......Fed funds rates at a historical norm would make the US debt service very difficult - consider the debt mountain created over the past few years ! Consider the amount of debt we admit to ( about 16 trillion ) , the fnm / fre liabilities ( another 5- 6 trillion we ignore but have allegedly guaranteed ) and another 87- 100 trillion in unfunded SS / Medicare and federal retirement benefits... how long can the US ponzi last , I mean really ?
When things fall apart , it might be ironic to see the UN ( led by China , Russia , India , South America and so called GCC friends , suddenly call on the US to " respect " the rights of protesters , for sanctions to be imposed because of human rights violations against the US and to see the same processes used against " Dictators " such as Assad / Saddam , Gaddafi et al , used against the US......
As Mark Twain once said " History doesn't repeat itself , but it does rhyme. " if such rhymes occur , Americans shouldn't be shocked..........
I don't know Fred. I think you grossly underestimate the power of power. The US has built up incredible power both economically and militarily. At no time in your lifetime will the UN ever dictate terms to the US. Forget all those movie plot versions, true power doesn't read screenplays, it just enforces it's will.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you've ever played "Risk" you'll know that America's true power is in it's geography; and when the world finally does crash the new overlords will choose North America as the home of the new world order. Location, location, location, best real estate on the planet.
I take it this is MM - I can't say that you're wrong and I respect your opinion. Every Empire has its day and we have seen the sun set on many over the annals of history. And don't think that I want the set to set on the US - I live here , plan to live and don't want to see the country lose its sovereign rights and powers. However , we are traveling down a dangerous road and we are entering ( in my opinion ) a time period where we may become vulnerable. At the end of the day , we shall see what goes down , right ?
ReplyDeleteA lot of discussion points :) While I don't like dictatorships and would prefer republics like America used to have, I think all forms of government will brutally repress threats to their power. Just look at our history, civil war, whiskey rebellion, the WW1 vets protest, Kent state, Waco, and the over top violence against the Occupy movement (which wasn't very threatening even). I don't think any of those 4 dictators stole as much from their people as our fake corporate run democracy is though. Still my main points are that it's not our business and the people we liberate will be much worse off.
ReplyDeleteI agree with MM that the US has a lot of power but I do think it's very dependent on complex systems that are not very robust. The main problem is that the economy has been hollowed out but I also doubt whether we could even build a drone without parts from China, even if they aren't in the drone, somewhere in the supply chain is bound to depend on them. So we can currently project a shitload of power but I don't think that would last long in a real war or even after the economy goes to shit.
Kev
Alabama says no to Agenda 21:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/11592-alabama-adopts-first-official-state-ban-on-un-agenda-21
NH Lawmaker seeks to ban Agenda 21:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/agenda-21-new-hampshire_n_2198466.html
Florida lawmaker seeks ban on agenda 21:
http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/don-gaetz-expect-anti-un-agenda-21-2013
Well well.. you don't wanna play by the new rules ??? Tisk tisk,,
non compliance is not an option and now you're on top of the hit list.
Just like Syria.
ooops..
NW
http://www.prisonplanet.com/u-n-conference-slyly-introduces-resolution-to-gain-control-of-internet%e2%80%94in-middle-of-night.html and everything else.
ReplyDeleteOh that's just crazy talk , they can't do that.. pfffffffff
NW
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.prisonplanet.com/rolling-stones-expose-banksters-endless-wars-and-the-nwo.html
ReplyDeleteMick still rockin'...
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/tepco-expecting-8-mag-quake-between-12.html
ReplyDeleteTepco seems to be anticipating a 8 mag quake on or about 12 /18......
http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/12/deepwater-horizon-leaking-oil-again-if.html
Did Deepwater Horizon ever actually stop leaking , have regional quakes caused cracks / seeps to release oil , will BP ever be held accountable for their lies and incalculable damage to the Gulf coast ?